CHINA: Firstfrutis of an Antichrist Surveillance

[B3L13v3R]

CHINA: FIRSTFRUITS OF AN ANTICHRIST SURVEILLANCE GOVERNMENT

"...President Xi Jinping considers Christians one of the greatest threats to his power. Underground churches are listed as one of the ‘new black five’ national security threats in China. It’s new under this president for churches to be classified as a national security threat. The government-sanctioned churches that are allowed to exist right now have unique restrictions. Each church has to install a facial-recognition camera in front of the pulpit. The purpose is to identify certain people in the congregation. Many classes of people are banned from entering into any church. These include young people under 18 years old, college students, doctors or medical professionals, civil servants, military members and educators. If they’re found, immediately their boss or a government official will be speaking with them. These are huge ramifications right now. It really began after President Xi Jinping took office in 2012. He is now nicknamed ‘Emperor Xi’ since he successfully removed his term limits in March of this year. When he took power, the mass forced demolition of crosses started in Zhejiang province. That area is called the Jerusalem of China. ... These are government-sanctioned churches. The house churches do not have buildings or a cross. ... On February 1 of this year, a new law called ‘Regulations on the Administration of Religious Affairs’ took effect. Things have become dramatically even worse. Bible-burning campaigns are happening across China. ... China is perhaps the world’s most sophisticated surveillance police state. It’s beyond anything the U.S. does. Some of these efforts are aided by greedy American companies. ... Apple decided to remove all virtual private networks from Apple Stores across China. They have a segregated Chinese version of the Apple iCloud. Supposedly this China iCloud is still part of Apple, offering iTunes content. But it’s totally controlled by the Chinese government. Cisco and Google are similar. China has the most cameras in the whole world, on every street corner."

"...I noted how China has five categories of dangerous people. Now China is also building the world’s largest so-called ‘social credit’ system. If you get a traffic ticket, then one point of morality is deducted. If you are found in the underground church, your social score is essentially zero. You lose your right to buy airplane tickets. Last week, I was in South Korea attending a house church leadership conference. But 240 out of 300 church leaders were blocked in Chinese airports, even including Hong Kong, and declared as national security threats. They were not allowed to board the flight when they checked in to Customs.”

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[simplejeff]

On 12/1/2018 at 10:52 PM, B3L13v3R said:

China is perhaps the world’s most sophisticated surveillance police state. It’s beyond anything the U.S. does. Some of these efforts are aided by greedy American companies. ........China has the most cameras in the whole world, on every street corner."

"China has the most cameras in the whole world, on every street corner."

On 12/1/2018 at 10:52 PM, B3L13v3R said:

"...I noted how China has five categories of dangerous people. Now China is also building the world’s largest so-called ‘social credit’ system. If you get a traffic ticket, then one point of morality is deducted. If you are found in the underground church, your social score is essentially zero. You lose your right to buy airplane tickets. Last week, I was in South Korea attending a house church leadership conference. But 240 out of 300 church leaders were blocked in Chinese airports, even including Hong Kong, and declared as national security threats. They were not allowed to board the flight when they checked in to Customs.”

"But 240 out of 300 church leaders were blocked in Chinese airports, even including Hong Kong, and declared as national security threats. They were not allowed to board the flight when they checked in to Customs.”

[B3L13v3R]

@simplejeff Hey Jeff! I was kind of surprised no one seemed to take notice of this story. So as Christians in China, we have a "social score is essentially zero." And cameras with facial recognition that check folks coming into church! Big Brother China is watching! Pray for our persecuted brethren there!

Thank God, He does not see us in that fallen humanistic light, but instead, the Light of Jesus Christ, our glorious Savior!

And He is watching too!

Proverbs 15:3  The eyes of the LORD are in every place, beholding the evil and the good.
 

[simplejeff]

5 minutes ago, B3L13v3R said:

Pray for our persecuted brethren there!

Several testimonies the last 70 years or so,  indicate something like this: 

that

a visitor from the west (USA)  to China,  meeting an aged , wise, member of the assembly that met secretly in a small dwelling

asked the old man what they needed most from the United States, for prayers or offering to send it when they got back....

The faithful old saint who like others was extremely poor in the world's goods (not even having had a new shirt in many years) 

said "We have need of nothing.  We have been praying for your country,  that God would send persecution to bring back the true faith in assemblies there. "  

The visitor knew this true,  and wept, convicted by Yahweh's Spirit.......

[B3L13v3R]

On 3/2/2019 at 7:22 AM, simplejeff said:

The faithful old saint who like others was extremely poor in the world's goods (not even having had a new shirt in many years) 

said "We have need of nothing.  We have been praying for your country,  that God would send persecution to bring back the true faith in assemblies there. "

Hey brother, while I feel real revival is needed, the portion of the story that falls flat on the note of "send persecution to bring back the true faith in assemblies there."

The story you mentioned was what was overheard by James T. Draper Jr. of the Southern Baptist International Mission Board.
Although our Chinese brother he overheard speaking with a newsman may have been "sincere" he was sincerely wrong when he stated: “We, in fact, are praying that the American church might taste the same persecution, so revival would come to the American church like we have seen in China.”

I see no place in God's Word where we Christians are suggested to "pray for the church (American or otherwise) to taste persecution."

My thoughts lean in the direction of should I pray for their cruel mockings? For them to be scourged? (Whipped) Should we pray for their imprisonment? For them to be sawn in half? Killed by the sword? Tormented? For them to be stoned?  Should I pray for them to have their clothes torn off and beaten, followed by them put in chains and shackles?  ---Of course not.

Hebrews 11:36-38  And others had trial of cruel mockings and scourgings, yea, moreover of bonds and imprisonment:  (37)  They were stoned, they were sawn asunder, were tempted, were slain with the sword: they wandered about in sheepskins and goatskins; being destitute, afflicted, tormented;  (38)  (Of whom the world was not worthy:) they wandered in deserts, and in mountains, and in dens and caves of the earth.

Acts 7:55-60  But he, (Stephen) being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God,  (56)  And said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God.  (57)  Then they cried out with a loud voice, and stopped their ears, and ran upon him with one accord,  (58)  And cast him out of the city, and stoned him: and the witnesses laid down their clothes at a young man's feet, whose name was Saul.  (59)  And they stoned Stephen, calling upon God, and saying, Lord Jesus, receive my spirit.  (60)  And he kneeled down, and cried with a loud voice, Lord, lay not this sin to their charge. And when he had said this, he fell asleep.(died)

Acts 16:22-26  And the multitude rose up together against them: and the magistrates rent off their clothes, and commanded to beat them.  (23)  And when they had laid many stripes upon them, they cast them into prison, charging the jailor to keep them safely:  (24)  Who, having received such a charge, thrust them into the inner prison, and made their feet fast in the stocks.  (25)  And at midnight Paul and Silas prayed, and sang praises unto God: and the prisoners heard them.  (26)  And suddenly there was a great earthquake, so that the foundations of the prison were shaken: and immediately all the doors were opened, and every one's bands were loosed.

[B3L13v3R]

Jesus Christ was persecuted, and sent to the cross for our sins. As fully man, and fully God, even he did not desire to be persecuted to the point of death when He petitioned of Father God:
Luke 22:42  Saying, Father, if thou be willing, remove this cup from me: nevertheless not my will, but thine, be done.

All Christians face some form of persecution, while it makes us uncomfortable, generally we grow in our faith in being a light for Christ in this fallen world.
Plavious who is currently at Worthy is undergoing trials, hunger, a loved one lost, and perhaps persecution. Yet he is standing fast and seeking God to sustain him in the midst of his and his family's turmoil.

I have no qualm in believing much of lightweight Christendom in many nations is turning towards the false, and needs to repent. It absolutely does. I wonder even now how many of America's professing Christians will stand if we had to go through the same persecutions as the early church did, or if we had to endure some of the persecutions of the tribulation period with our heads being cut off? -Rev 20:4
Persecution will truly show who is of Christ, some may even be killed, and become martyrs for our Lord.

With that, many lost may see their faith, and as a result, come to Christ themselves. However, we should never "Pray for the Church to be persecuted."

[B3L13v3R]

A nation without repentance is when God's judgment comes.

God brings judgment in order to get people to see their sins, repent, and truly turn to Him, or back to Him from their backslidden state.
In due process, for those who do not repent, they would become our persecutors during that time.
And who knows?
One of our killers could become a Christian at a later date, as Saul did. (Later to be named Paul) He was previously watching Stephen's killers, while consenting unto Stephen's death. -Acts 7:58-60, Acts 8:1

This diagram is pretty solid on that biblical thinking borrowed from Berit Kjos.
Personally where I see much of the U.S. on this diagram, is right in the middle of  "Apathy and Compromise, and Rebellion and Paganism."

"End time events fit the same Biblical patterns demonstrated in Old Testament history."

 

[simplejeff]

On 3/6/2019 at 12:44 PM, B3L13v3R said:

"End time events fit the same Biblical patterns demonstrated in Old Testament history."

One (maybe more) difference:    in the past,   Yahweh's Mercy was shown with and after <most of> His Judgment.

In the wrath/ judgment/ end judgment,   for those He executes His vengeance upon,   there follows for them no mercy.