KiwiChristian Posted February 1, 2019 Group: Members * Followers: 8 Topic Count: 176 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 870 Content Per Day: 0.35 Reputation: 330 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/23/2017 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/22/1968 Share Posted February 1, 2019 How can Jesus Christ be the Son of God? In English, we have only one word for Son, which is “Son” meaning a boy derived from his parents by sex. The New Testament was written in the Greek language, and Greek has two words for “Son” being: 1. TEKNON means a boy, derived from his parents by sex. This word, TEKNON is never used in the New Testament to describe Jesus as the “Son of God,” because we all agree, both Muslims, Christians, Quran and the Bible, that God does not have sex, does not have a wife, girlfriend, or babies. True? 2. HUIOS means same nature as, eg. Son of peace (Luke 10:36) means you have the nature of peace, or sons of disobedience (Eph 5:6). Jesus as “Son of God” means that He has 100% the same nature as God. Jesus is also called in the New Testament the “only begotten” Son of God. In Greek this is mono genes huios 1. “mono” means “one and same”, for example the monorail travels on one rail. 2. “genes” means “genetics”. We have about 25,000 genes which determine our every detail. So, Jesus as the “only begotten Son of God” means that He has the same genetics and the same nature as God. How can Jesus Christ be God? In Genesis 1:26, “God said, let us make man in our image, after our likeness.” This shows that man has a similar image or likeness to God. What is it? I’d like you to think about yourself for a moment. You are one man, with three parts. 1) You have a body which gives you world consciousness through your five senses. Your body is 100% human. It allows you to interact with the physical universe. 2) You have a soul made up of your mind, emotions and will, also known as your personality. This gives you self consciousness. It is 100% human. 3) You have a spirit which gives you God consciousness making you think that there is a God. It is your “God detector.” It is also 100% human. So you are one man with three parts. You are a trinity, meaning three in one. (1 Thess. 5:23). We can represent God in a similar manner with 3 circles. Islam, the Quran, Christianity and the Bible all believe in one God. In Matthew 28:19, Jesus teaches that there is only one true God by the singular word name, not names, “baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost”. The one true God has three parts known as the Father, the HUIOS Son and the Holy Spirit. 1) As we have a spirit that is 100% human, so God has a Spirit called the Holy Spirit, who is 100% God. 2) As we have a body that is 100% human that interacts with the physical universe, so God has something like a body through which He interacts with the physical universe, called the Son who is 100% God. It was God the Huios Son that spoke and appeared to Adam, Abraham, Jacob, Moses, Solomon, Isaiah and who was conceived into Mary as Jesus Christ. Before His conception, the Huios Son was only 100% God, but after His conception He was both 100% God and 100% man. It is like you having both an Iranian passport and an Australian passport. This makes you 100% Iranian and 100% Australian. 3) As you have a soul which is 100% human that tells your body what to do, so God has something like a soul called God the Father who tells the Huios Son what to do, such as to be conceived in Mary. Therefore, as you are one man with a spirit, soul and body, each being 100% human, so there is one true God made up of the Father, the Huios Son, and the Holy Spirit, each part being 100% God. As you are a trinity, so God is the Trinity, made up of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. This is in Proverbs 30:4; Psalm 2:12; Isaiah 9:6; 48:12,13,16; Daniel 3:25; Micah 5:2; Exodus 3:3-15; (24:9-18); John 8:58,59,24. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Who me Posted February 1, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 17 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,300 Content Per Day: 1.72 Reputation: 1,686 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/27/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted February 1, 2019 The simple answer is that is what the bible calls him, it is what he calls himself in matt 28, baptising them in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. If you are int the greek you will be aware of far more clever sites where you can be shown this from those who are fluent in ancient greek etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Hartono Posted February 1, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 771 Topics Per Day: 0.34 Content Count: 6,938 Content Per Day: 3.06 Reputation: 1,979 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/15/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted February 1, 2019 Two thousand years ago Peter said : Mat 16 16 Simon Peter said, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God. This idea has created many controversy among the Jews, perhaps if you lived during that time you may reject this idea as well. However, as a matter of fact Isaiah has confirmed that Jesus is actually God Himself appeared as man, though nobody realized it then. Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BostonBorn Posted February 1, 2019 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 14 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 10 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/14/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted February 1, 2019 (edited) John 1:18 No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him. 10 hours ago, KiwiChristian said: How can Jesus Christ be the Son of God? θεὸν οὐδεὶς ἑώρακεν πώποτε ὁ μονογενὴς υἱός ὁ ὢν εἰς τὸν κόλπον τοῦ πατρὸς ἐκεῖνος ἐξηγήσατο μονογενὴς monogenes UBS 04091 Unique. κόλπον τοῦ πατρὸς Unique because He emanates from the innermost being of the Father. True God and true man - post incarnation. Edited February 1, 2019 by BostonBorn shorten response Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Your closest friendnt Posted February 3, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 18 Topic Count: 8 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 7,853 Content Per Day: 2.42 Reputation: 2,761 Days Won: 3 Joined: 06/05/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted February 3, 2019 On 2/1/2019 at 7:51 AM, BostonBorn said: John 1:18 No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him. θεὸν οὐδεὶς ἑώρακεν πώποτε ὁ μονογενὴς υἱός ὁ ὢν εἰς τὸν κόλπον τοῦ πατρὸς ἐκεῖνος ἐξηγήσατο μονογενὴς monogenes UBS 04091 Unique. κόλπον τοῦ πατρὸς Unique because He emanates from the innermost being of the Father. True God and true man - post incarnation. Hello BostonBorn, What is in the bossom-kolpon of the Father, Was anyone else in the bossom-kolpon of the Father? Is it important for Jesus to be in the Bossom of the Father? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BostonBorn Posted February 3, 2019 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 14 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 10 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/14/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted February 3, 2019 (edited) 6 hours ago, Your closest friendnt said: Hello BostonBorn, What is in the bossom-kolpon of the Father, Was anyone else in the bossom-kolpon of the Father? Is it important for Jesus to be in the Bossom of the Father? Hello Friend, Bosom – kolpon Liddell Scott – 2. The womb – The place of origin. As far as I know from scripture no on else originates from the Bosom of the Father. It is an eternal relationship In John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The Word - O Logos - pre-incarnate Jesus. “was” in this passage is in the imperfect tense indicating continuous action from past time, IOW eternity. I don’t know the importance of the relationship except that it is just the way it is and has been from eternity. Edited February 3, 2019 by BostonBorn additional definition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Your closest friendnt Posted February 3, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 18 Topic Count: 8 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 7,853 Content Per Day: 2.42 Reputation: 2,761 Days Won: 3 Joined: 06/05/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted February 3, 2019 3 minutes ago, BostonBorn said: Hello Friend, Bosom – kolpon Liddell Scott – 2. The womb – The place of origin. As far as I know from scripture no on else originates from the Bosom of the Father. It is an eternal relationship In John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. “was” in this passage is in the imperfect tense indicating continuous action from past time, IOW eternity. I don’t know the importance of the relationship except that it is just the way it is and has been from eternity. Hello BBorn, " who is in the Kolpon of the Father...", may declare things to us about the Father"... how can we see this statement? In another place it says, Jesus is the only begotten of the Father... Is there a conflict? And if not why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BostonBorn Posted February 3, 2019 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 14 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 10 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/14/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted February 3, 2019 3 minutes ago, Your closest friendnt said: Hello BBorn, " who is in the Kolpon of the Father...", may declare things to us about the Father"... how can we see this statement? In another place it says, Jesus is the only begotten of the Father... Is there a conflict? And if not why? Apart from the Holy Spirit He alone has this eternal and intimate relationship with the Father. He is the final revelator of the Triune God. Hebrews 1 1 God, who at various times and in various ways spoke in time past to the fathers by the prophets, 2 has in these last days spoken to us by His Son, whom He has appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the worlds; No conflict just added knowledge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Your closest friendnt Posted February 3, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 18 Topic Count: 8 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 7,853 Content Per Day: 2.42 Reputation: 2,761 Days Won: 3 Joined: 06/05/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted February 3, 2019 4 minutes ago, BostonBorn said: Apart from the Holy Spirit He alone has this eternal and intimate relationship with the Father. He is the final revelator of the Triune God. Hebrews 1 1 God, who at various times and in various ways spoke in time past to the fathers by the prophets, 2 has in these last days spoken to us by His Son, whom He has appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the worlds; No conflict just added knowledge. This statement it seems that is not in harmony with the message of Jesus, that the Heavenly Father has only reveal himself to Jesus, and only Jesus can tell us about the Heavenly Father... What do see in the Hebrew's statement? Have you notice the diference... Or what is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BostonBorn Posted February 3, 2019 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 14 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 10 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/14/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted February 3, 2019 In the past God spoke through prophets and other means which words through the work of the Holy Spirit finally made it into the Scripture. Today God has spoken through His Son and His apostles which through the work of the Holy Spirit has been made Scripture the Bible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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