Firm Foundation Posted May 20, 2019 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 4 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,280 Content Per Day: 1.23 Reputation: 854 Days Won: 2 Joined: 03/31/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted May 20, 2019 1 hour ago, Debp said: PromisesPromises! You stated the above so beautifully, thank you! It seems almost like those that oppose Eternal Security do not feel the same as we do, about God's wonderful saving grace. That is, unless there is a threat of hell, it seems they would not walk with Jesus. I have seen a lot of OSAS believers walk out of God's hand, or live in open sin while claiming to be in God's hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debp Posted May 20, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 52 Topic Count: 1,020 Topics Per Day: 0.15 Content Count: 12,309 Content Per Day: 1.80 Reputation: 16,365 Days Won: 92 Joined: 07/19/2005 Status: Offline Author Share Posted May 20, 2019 1 minute ago, Firm Foundation said: I have seen a lot of OSAS believers walk out of God's hand, or live in open sin while claiming to be in God's hand. Seems they did not really know the Lord. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firm Foundation Posted May 20, 2019 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 4 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,280 Content Per Day: 1.23 Reputation: 854 Days Won: 2 Joined: 03/31/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted May 20, 2019 2 hours ago, Betha said: so you still sacrificing and killing animals daily as in the OT ? Where then is your love to God and neighbour espoused in the NT ? The scriptures i quoted are just my opinion/imagination ? Since you asked, none of the law of Moses was done away with, but some portions were intended to be temporary to get us to the cross. Animal sacrifices aren't necessary after Jesus shed his blood, for obvious reasons. The laws of separation are not necessary today either, because the gentiles are included in the plan of salvation. It is the moral laws that still matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firm Foundation Posted May 20, 2019 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 4 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,280 Content Per Day: 1.23 Reputation: 854 Days Won: 2 Joined: 03/31/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted May 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, Debp said: Seems they did not really know the Lord. That is a personal opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debp Posted May 20, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 52 Topic Count: 1,020 Topics Per Day: 0.15 Content Count: 12,309 Content Per Day: 1.80 Reputation: 16,365 Days Won: 92 Joined: 07/19/2005 Status: Offline Author Share Posted May 20, 2019 20 minutes ago, Firm Foundation said: I have seen a lot of OSAS believers walk out of God's hand, or live in open sin while claiming to be in God's hand. That is your personal opinion as well. Your opinion that they were saved. My opinion is that they weren't saved to begin with to live in open sin and claim they were in God's hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firm Foundation Posted May 20, 2019 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 4 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,280 Content Per Day: 1.23 Reputation: 854 Days Won: 2 Joined: 03/31/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted May 20, 2019 Just now, Debp said: That is your personal opinion as well. Your opinion that they were saved. My opinion is that they weren't saved to begin with to live in open sin and claim they were in God's hand. Agreed. Only God knows for sure who was really saved. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firm Foundation Posted May 20, 2019 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 4 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,280 Content Per Day: 1.23 Reputation: 854 Days Won: 2 Joined: 03/31/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted May 20, 2019 34 minutes ago, Sonshine☀️ said: Hello, Firm Foundation … Let’s consider … All of us believe the Holy Bible, right? We believe our Father when He tells us that He so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son that whosoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. It is not for us to wonder about those other “still sinning” believers. We will all be judged one day if we have not committed the unpardonable sin. …and some of us will be rewarded with lots of “fine white linen” because of our righteous acts. Others will most likely have very little of this. We also need to remember that if sinners have sincerely repented, God has forgiven them—as far as the east is from the west so far has He removed their transgressions. Not only that, we have the millennium for those who never had a chance to hear the Gospel. There will be much teaching during this time. After the 1,000 years, they will have the opportunity to accept Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior. We serve a loving and compassionate Father. He knows all things and is always fair. Let us all always remember—God is God and we are Not. All scripture is beneficial and all scripture is TRUE. It cannot contradict itself. It must grieve the Holy Spirit when His children go around accusing each other and chopping up His letter to us. The Bible story should flow smoothly and continuously in Truth. … and everybody said …… AMEN! I don't think it is a good idea judging who is saved and who is not. I just remind people of what the Bible says about what happens if you sin. We should give warnings and preach against sin, but Jesus is the judge of who gets into heaven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blood Bought 1953 Posted May 20, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 13 Topic Count: 48 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 6,726 Content Per Day: 2.88 Reputation: 6,258 Days Won: 5 Joined: 12/03/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted May 20, 2019 2 hours ago, Firm Foundation said: My point is that you make claims you don't back up while saying I have to back everything up. You still failed to back up 613 commands. That is the point I was making. Any other claims you think I can’t back up? Do you want the rest of the commandments or are you happy now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firm Foundation Posted May 20, 2019 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 4 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,280 Content Per Day: 1.23 Reputation: 854 Days Won: 2 Joined: 03/31/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted May 20, 2019 22 minutes ago, Blood Bought 1953 said: Any other claims you think I can’t back up? Do you want the rest of the commandments or are you happy now? I want all 613, plus you to give scripture proving God gave those laws to prove we can't keep them, and verses in the KJV Bible with the words Judaiser or legalist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firm Foundation Posted May 20, 2019 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 4 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,280 Content Per Day: 1.23 Reputation: 854 Days Won: 2 Joined: 03/31/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted May 20, 2019 34 minutes ago, Sonshine☀️ said: @Firm Foundation Romans 3:23 King James Version (KJV) 23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; None of us are perfect in this dispensation. Of course not, but nobody in any dispensation has to commit willful sins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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