The New Movement or the LAST Call

[Guest shiloh357]

You do not realise how worried Tishri1 was worried about you...going around the neighbor hood knocking on doors asking about you.

[Ahavah]

because in the end, believers in Yeshua will be only friends Israel has.

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Yeah..this is very true. Shimshon and I were just talking about this last night. Once that door opens for Messianic Jews to go back home...Bye..Bye American Pie.

[M45510G1C]

I do believe it is a calling and not just another movement. I believe in the coming years we will see many more people 'coming out of her' to return to His ways, following and worshipping the way He intended and commanded.

I am not certain I understand what you mean by 'the door being opened for Messianic Jews' as far as Israel is concerned. I know at least a dozen messianics who have moved there in the last year. Are people finding it difficult to go for some reason?

[Shimshon]

I do believe it is a calling and not just another movement.  I believe in the coming years we will see many more people 'coming out of her' to return to His ways, following and worshipping the way He intended and commanded.

I am not certain I understand what you mean by 'the door being opened for Messianic Jews' as far as Israel is concerned.  I know at least a dozen messianics who have moved there in the last year.  Are people finding it difficult to go for some reason?

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Well, either the propagana machine is in full tilt here, which is most likely the case. Or else we have two realities. I'll admit, i've never set foot there to say for myself just what it's like. I only hear about it. So, I hear two vastly different things. One from people who live and been there. They say, what do you mean unsafe? And you can't go? It's more safe than the states and I know Messianics who moved there myself." Then, from the rest you hear. Yisrael? You want to move the the center of HELL? You want to become a part of the burdensome stone that brings the whole world down? You want to live in the midst of islam? Are YOU NUTS!?

The media here plays it like the front lines of world terroism. And it is. But as me and Ahavah were saying. Like we don't hear EVERY night on the news of someone getting shot rapped drugged exploded, (yes, meth houses explode all the time here), gang raped, B&E's driveby's....you name it, it happens here. And Portland is by far not the worst place i've been in. I was partly raised in the good ole west, Arizona. Were we wore guns openly as we rode our hogs down the road. And to boot I was born in the projects of the south bronx. Tell me, what am I scared of by an arab with a missile who is just learning how to use it? When I've seen and known associations like Hells Angels that can come and take you away never to be seen gain. And NOTHING is ever done about it. Because, they can't find your bones.

And on another point. Why would you remain giving you lifeblood to this or any other country when you can live in and give you heart and soul to the nation that birthed you. Now know, i'm talking about yehudim here. Not all christians. But I would not shut the door on them either. As is done.

SOOOOOO M4. Tell me about the Messianic commuinity in Yisrael. I know it exists, I hear they are very persecuted even by our own. But i've not known it to be 'easy' to be there. I hear you must be born in the land to be a Messianic?

I do believe I am able to make aliyah as my grandfather was Jewish from Poland and my grandmother from Hungary. I've read were if you are the son or grandson of a Jew you can make aliyah, but i've also heard if you profess Yeshua, the deals off. So, again. Have you heard different? I'd sure be interested. I'm just about ready to enter the gates and set up camp and wait for the rest of ya.

[Tishri 1]

You do not realise how worried Tishri1 was worried about you...going around the neighbor hood knocking on doors asking about you.  I am glad she found you...  She was a mess.... now she is happy again.

so happy! so happy!

I came to Messiah believing this is the last call, and I have watched others come with nothing but a testimony of God's leading, not even a testimony of someone leading.  I can attest to the fact that God lead me to the truth in His Word and then to others he had lead this far.

I heared someone say a while back that this was the "Quite Revival"

Is it the end of messages from God, Nah... God will inspire us through out eternity with His wonders. We are just beginning to understand.

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amen!

[Tishri 1]

You do not realise how worried Tishri1 was worried about you...going around the neighbor hood knocking on doors asking about you.  I am glad she found you...  She was a mess.... now she is happy again.

I sent her a personal E-mail about how I was grateful for her friendship.

Is it the end of messages from God, Nah... God will inspire us through out eternity with His wonders. We are just beginning to understand.

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I don't believe that G-d is done giving out messages, but I'm just still wondering...Do ya really think that this Messianic intrest is just another movement then? Ya know..like the charismatic movement..the Latter rain movement ect...?

I can't recall any movement like this that has been calling people of of their churches and synagogues to become One in Yeshua.

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I believe it is a move of the Lord, that is for sure, and I believe that it is helping the Church back to its roots.

This is necessary, because as we know, the fig tree (Israel) has put forth its leaves. God is moving the Church back to its roots because in the end, believers in Yeshua will be only friends Israel has.

I believe that this will be a dividing line within the Church. I don't believe that it is any coincidence that we see a crescendo of interest in the Messianic roots of the Christian faith alongside the regathering of the Jewish people back to the Land.

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do you think they know how much we love them?

[Tishri 1]

Leaving On A Jet Plane by John Denver

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All my bags are packed, I'm ready to go,

I'm standing here outside your door,(USA)

I hate to wake you up to say goodbye.

But the dawn is breaking, it's early morn,

God's taxi's waiting, He's blowing his horn,(Shofar)

Already I'm so lonesome I could cry.

So kiss me and smile for me, tell me that you'll follow me,

Hold me like you'll never let me go.

I'm leaving on a jet plane, don't know when I'll be back again.

Oh, USA, I have to go.

[M45510G1C]

SOOOOOO M4. Tell me about the Messianic commuinity in Yisrael. I know it exists, I hear they are very persecuted even by our own. But i've not known it to be 'easy' to be there. I hear you must be born in the land to be a Messianic?

I do believe I am able to make aliyah as my grandfather was Jewish from Poland and my grandmother from Hungary. I've read were if you are the son or grandson of a Jew you can make aliyah, but i've also heard if you profess Yeshua, the deals off. So, again. Have you heard different? I'd sure be interested. I'm just about ready to enter the gates and set up camp and wait for the rest of ya.

I haven't spoken to my friends about the particulars of moving there, as I am not in a place where I can do so just yet, so I'm not really certain what its all about. I also don't get to see or speak with them terribly often.

None of them were born there (all are from Pikesville), two families are Jewish (Messianic) and I also know a Messianic Gentile believer (Torah observant) who lives there. All of them absolutely love it there, I mean really love it, you can tell that they are anxious to get back whenever they are visiting here. The two families have 6 and 4 children respectively, the Gentile man works with a missionary group there which sometimes does work in conjunction with the Israeli military (menial stuff like pulling weeds on bases, digging, stuff they don't neccessarily have the manpower for). None of them have ever complained about the community treating them poorly. All of them lived in Pikesville (Baltimore) which has the second largest population of Jews outside if Israel (NY is #1), they found the Pikesville community to be rather.....antagonistic toward their professed faith in Messiah, none have voiced any problems with this in Israel.

I am certain that there are members of the Israeli population that do not take kindly to Messianic believers, but I believe the majority of them are at the very least fairly ambivalent, I know that some even accept the Messianic movement as a valid sect of Judaism.

[Ahavah]

Hey M455....... can ya hook us up with your friends who live in Israel. We are really serious about moving over there. We would just like to know the details. I know Shimshon has his grandfathers immigration papers ect...But still wondering.....what else do we need (besides alot of money).

[Guest Zayit]

I believe that the only way to be the head and not the tail is to follow those who follow the Shepherd, and ya gotta let them into the pasture first to do that!