Neighbor Posted September 14, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 18 Topic Count: 952 Topics Per Day: 0.35 Content Count: 13,569 Content Per Day: 5.03 Reputation: 9,048 Days Won: 6 Joined: 12/04/2016 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/03/1885 Share Posted September 14, 2019 https://www.levitt.com/wp-content/uploads/LL-2019-06.pdf I take this moment to encourage reading the article linked above. It begins: " In his 2018 book, Andy Stanley wants to change the way Christianity is taught in order to reach new generations of skeptics. While he has every good intention, the pastor of the second-largest church in America proposes a shocking approach that takes the Church back centuries — not to the first-cen- tury as he claims, but to a later time when Replacement Theology prevailed and the Church was, therefore, largely anti-Semitic. Though that may not be his intent, it is the result of his dismissing everything Jewish in the Bible — namely the Old Testament — deeming it obsolete.".... ----------- This is not a new battle to dismiss the OT and Zola Levitt fought against it for many years. It is still with us, something to beware.- Neighbor 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neighbor Posted September 14, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 18 Topic Count: 952 Topics Per Day: 0.35 Content Count: 13,569 Content Per Day: 5.03 Reputation: 9,048 Days Won: 6 Joined: 12/04/2016 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/03/1885 Author Share Posted September 14, 2019 There is an episode of Zola Levitt Presents on Youtube hosted David and Kirsten Hart and presented by Miles and Katherine Weiss after Zola's death, and is also available for download from the series "Time of the Signs (2017) Bethlehem rewritten". The presentation takes on a newer tactic and strategy of "Replacement Theology". It links this idea "Replacement Theology" to the goals of Islam and communism to undermine and eliminate the Jew and the Christian by first undercutting the basis for Jesus. This is the effect of replacement theology. It is a 28 minute program, longer than I can post a direct link to here under the guideline for videos to be no more than 20 minutes. So I do not post the direct link. Do a search online and you will find it. PS- I have added the video presentation to Christian video section of Worthy Christian Forums with hope that it will be approved for viewing, as the essence of the presentation is less than 20 minutes, but the program is formatted as a half hour tv program so it runs for 28 minutes total. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joebloggs Posted September 14, 2019 Group: Junior Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 105 Content Per Day: 0.06 Reputation: 34 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/20/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted September 14, 2019 I've never heard of replacement theology but I just googled it and it seems more or less right to me. The new covenant replacing the old one. Isn't that what all Christian's believe? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neighbor Posted September 15, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 18 Topic Count: 952 Topics Per Day: 0.35 Content Count: 13,569 Content Per Day: 5.03 Reputation: 9,048 Days Won: 6 Joined: 12/04/2016 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/03/1885 Author Share Posted September 15, 2019 11 hours ago, joebloggs said: The new covenant replacing the old one. Isn't that what all Christian's believe? Hi, No. Separately; that is not what replacement theology attempts to do. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted September 15, 2019 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,991 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,689 Content Per Day: 11.81 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted September 15, 2019 (edited) The replacement theory is not biblical. Question: "What is replacement theology / supersessionism?" Answer: Replacement theology (also known as supersessionism) essentially teaches that the church has replaced Israel in God’s plan. Adherents of replacement theology believe the Jews are no longer God’s chosen people, and God does not have specific future plans for the nation of Israel. Among the different views of the relationship between the church and Israel are the church has replaced Israel (replacement theology), the church is an expansion of Israel (covenant theology), or the church is completely different and distinct from Israel (dispensationalism/premillennialism). Replacement theology teaches that the church is the replacement for Israel and that the many promises made to Israel in the Bible are fulfilled in the Christian church, not in Israel. The prophecies in Scripture concerning the blessing and restoration of Israel to the Promised Land are spiritualized or allegorized into promises of God’s blessing for the church. Major problems exist with this view, such as the continuing existence of the Jewish people throughout the centuries and especially with the revival of the modern state of Israel. If Israel has been condemned by God and there is no future for the Jewish nation, how do we explain the supernatural survival of the Jewish people over the past 2,000 years despite the many attempts to destroy them? How do we explain why and how Israel reappeared as a nation in the 20th century after not existing for 1,900 years? The view that Israel and the church are different is clearly taught in the New Testament. Biblically speaking, the church is distinct from Israel, and the terms church and Israel are never to be confused or used interchangeably. We are taught from Scripture that the church is an entirely new creation that came into being on the day of Pentecost and will continue until it is taken to heaven at the rapture (Ephesians 1:9–11; 1 Thessalonians 4:13–17). The church has no relationship to the curses and blessings for Israel. The covenants, promises, and warnings of the Mosaic Covenant were valid only for Israel. Israel has been temporarily set aside in God’s program during these past 2,000 years of dispersion (see Romans 11). Contrary to replacement theology, dispensationalism teaches that, after the rapture (1 Thessalonians 4:13–18), God will restore Israel as the primary focus of His plan. The first event at this time is the tribulation (Revelation chapters 6–19). The world will be judged for rejecting Christ, while Israel is prepared through the trials of the great tribulation for the second coming of the Messiah. Then, when Christ does return to the earth at the end of the tribulation, Israel will be ready to receive Him. The remnant of Israel who survive the tribulation will be saved, and the Lord will establish His kingdom on this earth with Jerusalem as its capital. With Christ reigning as King, Israel will be the leading nation, and representatives from all nations will come to Jerusalem to honor and worship the King—Jesus Christ. The church will return with Christ and will reign with Him for a literal thousand years (Revelation 20:1–5). Both the Old Testament and the New Testament support a premillennial/dispensational understanding of God’s plan for Israel. The strongest support for premillennialism is found in the clear teaching of Revelation 20:1–7, where it says six times that Christ’s kingdom will last 1,000 years. After the tribulation the Lord will return and establish His kingdom with the nation of Israel, Christ will reign over the whole earth, and Israel will be the leader of the nations. The church will reign with Him for a literal thousand years. The church has not replaced Israel in God's plan. While God may be focusing His attention primarily on the church in this dispensation of grace, God has not forgotten Israel and will one day restore Israel to His intended role as the nation He has chosen (Romans 11). https://www.gotquestions.org/replacement-theology.html Edited September 15, 2019 by missmuffet 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willa Posted September 15, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 68 Topic Count: 186 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 14,242 Content Per Day: 3.33 Reputation: 16,656 Days Won: 30 Joined: 08/14/2012 Status: Offline Share Posted September 15, 2019 The idea of replacement theology began with Augustine's "City of God" claiming that Rome is now Jerusalem. It goes on to make all of the Revelation an allegory as well as many other prophesies in old and new Testaments. It is safest to interpret the Bible as literally as possible unless stated otherwise. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joebloggs Posted September 15, 2019 Group: Junior Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 105 Content Per Day: 0.06 Reputation: 34 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/20/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted September 15, 2019 This is a new one on me so forgive the misunderstanding. So the focus of this replacement theory is about the Jews and kinda what happens to them after christ came? This sounds like a very big study lol. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joebloggs Posted September 15, 2019 Group: Junior Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 105 Content Per Day: 0.06 Reputation: 34 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/20/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted September 15, 2019 My current thinking is that the Jews up until christ will go to heaven then the ones alive after Christ should follow his teachings to go to heaven. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joebloggs Posted September 15, 2019 Group: Junior Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 105 Content Per Day: 0.06 Reputation: 34 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/20/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted September 15, 2019 4 hours ago, Willa said: The idea of replacement theology began with Augustine's "City of God" claiming that Rome is now Jerusalem. It goes on to make all of the Revelation an allegory as well as many other prophesies in old and new Testaments. It is safest to interpret the Bible as literally as possible unless stated otherwise. I wouldn't say it's best to interpret the bible as literally as possible. I always try and figure out whether the scripture I'm reading is intended to be taken literally or figuratively and view it through the lenses I believe God intended. I would even consider the possibility that different portions should be viewed literally at different times in history to. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Adams Posted September 15, 2019 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 25 Topic Count: 61 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 9,605 Content Per Day: 3.97 Reputation: 7,795 Days Won: 21 Joined: 09/11/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted September 15, 2019 Augustine was a dangerous person. He only knew Latin yet you'd think he was well read. The apostle says, "all Israel will be saved". This is his theological statement that all believers, Israelis and non-Israelis will be saved as Israel; as The Seed of Abraham. This is God's idea. He wants sons and daughters of humanity blended with this Holy Sons. He wants a HUGE family. Replacement ideas are ANATHEMA. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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