Popular Post alaric_w Posted February 4, 2020 Group: Junior Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 38 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 81 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 106 Days Won: 1 Joined: 01/10/2019 Status: Offline Popular Post Share Posted February 4, 2020 Most of today’s churches are mixing God’s way of dealing with Christians in the old testament (Covenant of LAW) with the new testament (Covenant of GRACE). Covenant of Grace requires FAITH to receive his undeserved blessings while the Covenant of Law requires keeping all of God’s law to earn his blessings. Under the law, it is written that no one can keep it. Romans 14:23 But he who doubts is condemned if he eats, because he does not eat from faith; for whatever is not from faith is sin. James 2:10 For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it. Therefore, everyone who tries to approach God through the Law is cursed. Galatians 3:10 All who rely on observing the law are under a curse, for it is written: ‘Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the Book of the Law. The Law kills faith and render Grace powerless. Christians look at themselves and find that they are undeserving and not worthy to receive blessings from God. Galatians 5:4 You who are trying to be justified by the law have been alienated from Christ; you have fallen away from grace. Any Christian will find it hard to believe that God is on their side without the constant preaching of the gift of righteousness and the abundance of grace. Romans 5:17 For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ. All Christians need to look away from self and look at Jesus and be constantly reminded that abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness are free gifts from God. No Christian can meet God’s prefect standard to be righteous enough to receive grace. That is why Jesus has to pay for it with his life in order to give it to Christians as free gifts. With the consciousness of the righteousness which is a gift from Jesus, faith will arise and Christians will be able to approach God boldly for his abundance of grace. 4 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not me Posted February 4, 2020 Group: Royal Member Followers: 14 Topic Count: 514 Topics Per Day: 0.23 Content Count: 3,196 Content Per Day: 1.43 Reputation: 3,358 Days Won: 1 Joined: 04/06/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted February 4, 2020 @alaric_w Very nice read, God is alive and well in you and your relationship with Him is food for the hungry soul... Be blessed as He becomes the more and the we less... Not me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neighbor Posted February 4, 2020 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 18 Topic Count: 961 Topics Per Day: 0.35 Content Count: 13,701 Content Per Day: 5.04 Reputation: 9,102 Days Won: 6 Joined: 12/04/2016 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/03/1885 Share Posted February 4, 2020 8 hours ago, alaric_w said: Covenant of Grace requires FAITH to receive his undeserved blessings while the Covenant of Law requires keeping all of God’s law to earn his blessings. Not my faith but Christ Jesus' faith. For my faith fails me, my Lord's does not. He does the will of His Father. I cannot rely on even the work of my own faith. I lean on that of Jesus alone. Grace is all of God and none of me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigger56 Posted February 4, 2020 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 679 Topics Per Day: 0.36 Content Count: 1,327 Content Per Day: 0.70 Reputation: 992 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/04/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted February 4, 2020 I do believe in the grace received from the life and death and resurrection of my Savior. However, how do I honor him? How do I show love and obedience without the observance of His ways and His law? You stated, " Under the law, it is written that no one can keep it.". I agree that I cannot keep the law perfectly but that doesn't mean that I shouldn't keep it but in grace I find forgiveness when I fail. Without law, what do I need to be forgiven of? For without law there is no sin. Out curiosity which law should be ignored? Commandment one? We should have any god we want and place them before the true God? Commandment two? Can I have idols? Commandment three? I can curse God? Commandment four? I can ignore the Sabbath and worship whenever and however I want? commandment five? I don't have to honor my mother and father? commandment six? I can kill? Commandment seven? I can commit adultery? commandment eight? I can steal? commandment nine? I can bear false witness? commandment ten? I can covet? When people tell me that I do not have to observe the law, that is pretty comprehensive in nature. So which law listed isn't good and should be ignored? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alive Posted February 4, 2020 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 22 Topic Count: 194 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 11,054 Content Per Day: 6.48 Reputation: 9,018 Days Won: 36 Joined: 09/12/2019 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/09/1956 Share Posted February 4, 2020 @Tigger56you want to please God and of course this is a good thing. You place some measure of confidence in that desire and your ability to 'keep' the law--is that an accurate assessment? If that is accurate---what measure? Can you define it? What portion of the law (how much of it) coincides with that aforementioned 'measure'? Do you fall short of that 'measure' that you have set for yourself? Where do you go if you do fall short? Does that measure change? On a very good day when you have met the 'measure', do you have a sense of 'justification? Or accomplishment? Do you present that before the Lord and look for His approval? I have purposely avoided the negative--you may have noticed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigger56 Posted February 4, 2020 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 679 Topics Per Day: 0.36 Content Count: 1,327 Content Per Day: 0.70 Reputation: 992 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/04/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted February 4, 2020 I do walk a path of righteousness before the Lord and I am his Servant. I follow the obedience of love and the love of obedience. The Lord Jesus is my God and my Savior. He is the author and finisher of my faith and I seek to please Him at all times. If I fail in my obedience I know that all I have to do is take a step toward Him and He will run to me. His grace is ever unto me and I know I am precious in his sight. So, yes I keep the law to the fullest measure I can each and every day. Which measure of the law do you feel we shouldn't keep and which law as I posted before is that we are to ignore? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alive Posted February 4, 2020 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 22 Topic Count: 194 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 11,054 Content Per Day: 6.48 Reputation: 9,018 Days Won: 36 Joined: 09/12/2019 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/09/1956 Share Posted February 4, 2020 51 minutes ago, Tigger56 said: I do walk a path of righteousness before the Lord and I am his Servant. I follow the obedience of love and the love of obedience. The Lord Jesus is my God and my Savior. He is the author and finisher of my faith and I seek to please Him at all times. If I fail in my obedience I know that all I have to do is take a step toward Him and He will run to me. His grace is ever unto me and I know I am precious in his sight. So, yes I keep the law to the fullest measure I can each and every day. Which measure of the law do you feel we shouldn't keep and which law as I posted before is that we are to ignore? I have to go out for a while to look at some work. I will respond when I return..Lord willing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigger56 Posted February 4, 2020 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 679 Topics Per Day: 0.36 Content Count: 1,327 Content Per Day: 0.70 Reputation: 992 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/04/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted February 4, 2020 48 minutes ago, Alive said: I have to go out for a while to look at some work. I will respond when I return..Lord willing. No problem, be safe and have a great day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahmedcrow Posted February 4, 2020 Group: Junior Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 107 Content Per Day: 0.07 Reputation: 56 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/19/2020 Status: Offline Share Posted February 4, 2020 (edited) alaric studied this point good, yes, the flesh can't satisfy God, when we'll work according to law we'll work too according to the flesh nature and we'll fail in doing the heavenly requests. Jesus by the second birth he gave us, helps us to do the deeds as they are supposed to be, the deed which has no spirit, no faith, no love, is a died deed because it'll take the same nature of world, the world has the nature of sin and death, the mortality. Jesus will help us to work in the immortal nature of heaven. Even those worked according to law and flesh, you'll find flaws in the deep of their deeds like Sadducees and Pharisees. Edited February 4, 2020 by ahmedcrow 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post alaric_w Posted February 4, 2020 Group: Junior Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 38 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 81 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 106 Days Won: 1 Joined: 01/10/2019 Status: Offline Author Popular Post Share Posted February 4, 2020 (edited) 29 minutes ago, ahmedcrow said: alaric studied this point good, yes, the flesh can't satisfy God, when we'll work according to law we'll work too according to the flesh nature and we'll fail in doing the heavenly requests. Jesus by the second birth he gave us, helps us to do the deeds as they are supposed to be, the deed which has no spirit, no faith, no love, is a died deed because it'll take the same nature of world, the world has the nature of sin and death, the mortality. Jesus will help us to work in the immortal nature of heaven. Even those worked according to law and flesh, you'll find flaws in the deep of their deeds like Sadducees and Pharisees. When we serve using the power of our flesh, it seem something is missing and we get tired emotionally and physically. It is only after understanding grace that I come to this revelation that anything that comes from the flesh will never last even if we are doing something good for the church or obeying God. Many christian have this wrong thinking that walking in obedience with the effort of the flesh (self-discipline, human endurance, self-determination and will power) equals to walking in the Spirit. Even non-christian who operates only in the flesh can do good works using their human efforts. And if human efforts can please God, we can saved ourselves and Jesus died in vain. If you have sin consciousness or law consciousness, you are still operating under the flesh and your own human effort. Not many christian understood this. The true walk in the Spirit is not being bounded by the law and sin, it is a easy walk by yielding to the desire of the Spirit. When you give yourself to the desires of the Spirit, you will be able to follow all of God's law effortlessly (without human efforts). Edited February 4, 2020 by alaric_w 4 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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