Abused Verses

[nebula]

Constant -

The best study on Revelation i have ever heard was one where they didn't worry about trying to figure out "what will happen," but rather "what does the Lord want to teach us thorugh this."

So, when you read about the Lord's word to the seven churches, instead of focusing on the prophetic element, focus on, "How does the Lord want me to live based on what He has spoken to these churches?"

Does that make sense?

[Constant]

Yes! Thank you. The churches was confusing and then the seals and the angels.

[Keith]

Alot of abused verses comes from not knowing a meaning of a word in that verse.Such case would be the word"suffer".This word has two meanings.....one is to allow and another means to feel pain or distress.In the verse..."suffer the little children".....JESUS is saying allow the little children to come unto HIM and forbid them not.I heard a preacher once use this verse with the meaning of suffer as being in pain!We need to know the meaning of Biblical words in order to understand a verse and its meaning.

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That's stupid.

Horrible in fact!

How could ANYONE misinterpet something like that...

So the preacher says "Make 'em suffer.

Madness.

Mad guy!!!

Yomo

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Yomo, dear, you don't allow others to speak to each other this way in your threads. Let's use the same respect in other people's threads. Keep in mind that just because you understand something, doesn't mean that everyone else will. We are all at different stages in our walk with God. Some have more understanding than others. Knowledge doesn't come instantly.

[Guest shiloh357]

Alot of abused verses comes from not knowing a meaning of a word in that verse.Such case would be the word"suffer".This word has two meanings.....one is to allow and another means to feel pain or distress.In the verse..."suffer the little children".....JESUS is saying allow the little children to come unto HIM and forbid them not.I heard a preacher once use this verse with the meaning of suffer as being in pain!We need to know the meaning of Biblical words in order to understand a verse and its meaning.

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Yeah that is true. Nebula has some good things to say about how understanding what words mean:

We need to understand that "meek" does not equal "weak".

According to the Lexicon offered by crosswalk.com:

Meekness toward God is that disposition of spirit in which we acceptHis dealings with us as good, and therefore without disputing orresisting. In the OT, the meek are those wholly relying on God ratherthan their own strength to defend them against injustice. Thus,meekness toward evil people means knowing God is permitting theinjuries they inflict, that He is using them to purify His elect, andthat He will deliver His elect in His time.

Meek has to do with submissiveness and conrolled strength. Meekness says, "I will hope in the Lord" rather than "I'll take vengence myself."

Meek does not mean "doormat."

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Grasping what words mean to a particular author is important in understanding the point(s) he/she is trying to convey.

[Guest mote]

Another verse to consider--2 Chronicles 7:14

[Guest shiloh357]

Let it be noted that there is not one verse in the New Testament that would lead us to believe that we are to be making nations to be Christian. There is not one verse that instructs the believer to go forth and change nations. 

You are completely wrong.

And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

(Matthew 28:18-20)

And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behooved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day: And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem. And ye are witnesses of these things. (Luke 24:46-48)

And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power. But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth. (Acts 1:7-8)

The LORD hath made bare his holy arm in the eyes of all the nations; and all the ends of the earth shall see the salvation of our God.

(Isaiah 52:10)

And he said, It is a light thing that thou shouldest be my servant to raise up the tribes of Jacob, and to restore the preserved of Israel: I will also give thee for a light to the Gentiles, that thou mayest be my salvation unto the end of the earth.

(Isaiah 49:6)

[Guest shiloh357]

Thus, to try to use this verse for any other nation is an misapplication and dislocation of God

[RGR]

Thus, to try to use this verse for any other nation is an misapplication and dislocation of God

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shiloh357,

I believe in everything you quoted by the scriptures in post 54. Now, go back and re-read my statements in post 54 to what I actually said.

[Guest shiloh357]

shiloh357,

I believe in everything you quoted by the scriptures in post 54. Now, go back and re-read my statements in post 54 to what I actually said.

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No... the onus is on you to explain what you really mean.