Mary8 Posted March 30, 2020 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 7 Topic Count: 35 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 241 Content Per Day: 0.10 Reputation: 204 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/23/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted March 30, 2020 (edited) Czechoslovakia took steps early. Masks became mandatory March 18, and within 10 days everyone was wearing a mask in public, and the slow numbers of increase are really excellent. The increase of new cases often 11% or so for the day. Many got busy, made masks of old theater curtains, t shirt material, etc. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_coronavirus_pandemic_in_the_Czech_Republic also as Czechia at: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries here is a video of breath particles that I had been searching for: https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/health/a32033636/talking-micro-droplets-coronavirus/ Edited April 8, 2020 by Mary8 to add link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warrior12 Posted March 30, 2020 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 54 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2,452 Content Per Day: 0.88 Reputation: 1,530 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/05/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted March 30, 2020 Making mask from T shirt is a false sense of protection when is comes to this virus. The size of the virus is so tiny that the specification for protection is at the level of the N-95 made by 3M. Mask has to be used once and then discarded or you can make matters worst by bringing the virus into your home . Let the experts here explain why. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clipper Posted March 30, 2020 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 168 Content Per Day: 0.07 Reputation: 165 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/12/2017 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/18/2000 Share Posted March 30, 2020 An 11% increase in new cases is still pretty bad. If you're healthy, leave the masks to medical professionals who actually need to be able to use them. You can't practice medicine while down with the virus. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jostler Posted March 30, 2020 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 24 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,679 Content Per Day: 1.38 Reputation: 3 Days Won: 16 Joined: 01/19/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted March 30, 2020 (edited) Any mask is better than none. And if everyone is wearing them it WILL slow this thing down. The fact our governments are telling us masks are not effective is criminal, and based on the fact they did not do their job ...at all....and don't want you to know that. We should never have been in a position where our medical system personnel would not have enough protective gear to do their jobs. It did not have to be this way. It was obvious we would eventually get to where we are right now in the last week of January. Crash programs to produce PPE and respirators should have been set in motion then. They were not....and that was a choice. We had plenty of data coming out of China to be able to do the simple maths necessary to estimate how much PPE was going to be needed and begun programs to get it into production all the way back then. They knew full well almost all PPE is manufactured in China and knew full well China was going to need all it's production to deal with its own situation. They knew China was shutting down production and shutting down ports ....why didn't they act on the obvious ramifications of those FACTS. Getting EVERYONE in a mask every time they are out in public is one of the control measures necessary to address this plague. So rather than tell the truth, they try to sell the lie that masks are ineffective. Baloney and they know it. Now we ARE in a pinch with our front line medical workers dropping like flies due to CDC and HHS choices. Once enough masks are available for the general population, masks can be steamed to sterilize them, or if someone has five they can be carefully put into a paper bag and just left for at least three days ...none of this is ideal and didn't have to be this way...but now that we have a real problem there are ways to lessen the risks of not having masks and not having enough. Edited March 30, 2020 by Jostler 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jostler Posted March 30, 2020 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 24 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,679 Content Per Day: 1.38 Reputation: 3 Days Won: 16 Joined: 01/19/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted March 30, 2020 Somebody in the Czech government actually did the right things for their citizens.... South Korea has led the way in demonstrating how to do this right. Within a week they had an app out that alerted people if they'd been close to an infected person. Tools and expertise have been developed in other countries and our so called health officials know about every one of them. Why are they not telling us or making the slightest efforts to duplicate what is already proven to be working in other countries? There's a reason for that.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted March 30, 2020 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,994 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,692 Content Per Day: 11.75 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted March 30, 2020 A mask does not help with COVID-19. So they are only wasting the masks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhchristian Posted March 30, 2020 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 9 Topic Count: 136 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 2,488 Content Per Day: 1.39 Reputation: 1,325 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/29/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted March 30, 2020 1 hour ago, Jostler said: Somebody in the Czech government actually did the right things for their citizens.... South Korea has led the way in demonstrating how to do this right. Within a week they had an app out that alerted people if they'd been close to an infected person. Tools and expertise have been developed in other countries and our so called health officials know about every one of them. Why are they not telling us or making the slightest efforts to duplicate what is already proven to be working in other countries? There's a reason for that.... And the reason is? Here is another clue as My governor just got a Trump Nickname. https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/03/exclusive-interview-im-actually-ashamed-shes-our-governor-covid-19-survivor-jim-santelli-blasts-michigan-governor-for-banning-drug-that-saved-his-life/ They are Playing politics with people's lives at stake. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhchristian Posted March 30, 2020 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 9 Topic Count: 136 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 2,488 Content Per Day: 1.39 Reputation: 1,325 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/29/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted March 30, 2020 These people are sick!, They do not want you to "get well soon" because they are playing politics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jostler Posted March 30, 2020 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 24 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,679 Content Per Day: 1.38 Reputation: 3 Days Won: 16 Joined: 01/19/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted March 30, 2020 28 minutes ago, missmuffet said: A mask does not help with COVID-19. So they are only wasting the masks. Please read the following....and never say that again. Modeling the Effectiveness of Respiratory Protective Devices in Reducing Influenza Outbreak Quote Jing Yan 1 2 , Suvajyoti Guha 2 , Prasanna Hariharan 2 , Matthew Myers 2 Affiliations PMID: 30229968 DOI: 10.1111/risa.13181 Abstract Outbreaks of influenza represent an important health concern worldwide. In many cases, vaccines are only partially successful in reducing the infection rate, and respiratory protective devices (RPDs) are used as a complementary countermeasure. In devising a protection strategy against influenza for a given population, estimates of the level of protection afforded by different RPDs is valuable. In this article, a risk assessment model previously developed in general form was used to estimate the effectiveness of different types of protective equipment in reducing the rate of infection in an influenza outbreak. It was found that a 50% compliance in donning the device resulted in a significant (at least 50% prevalence and 20% cumulative incidence) reduction in risk for fitted and unfitted N95 respirators, high-filtration surgical masks, and both low-filtration and high-filtration pediatric masks. An 80% compliance rate essentially eliminated the influenza outbreak. The results of the present study, as well as the application of the model to related influenza scenarios, are potentially useful to public health officials in decisions involving resource allocation or education strategies. 80% of an infected population wearing masks...ELIMINATED influenza epidemics. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jostler Posted March 30, 2020 Group: Mars Hill Followers: 24 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,679 Content Per Day: 1.38 Reputation: 3 Days Won: 16 Joined: 01/19/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted March 30, 2020 20 minutes ago, dhchristian said: These people are sick!, They do not want you to "get well soon" because they are playing politics. it goes deeper than that, but they are playing politics...and it's both sides. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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