I need your advice

[O'Dannyboy]

I am about to move to my new apartment today. I cannot sleep and I cannot get this situation out of my mind.

Over two years ago I helped the son of a "friend of the familiy" get a job where I work. Since he made his 90 days he has been stealing time from the company in one fassion or another. Over these last two years I have made many observations and pointed them out to management. So much so that I am now the proverbial " boy who cried wolf ". Yesterday while management was tied up in meetings and anniversary dinner preparations, the same co-worker was at it again. He spent half an hour in the secretaries office sharing a pizza, later to leave the company property in his personal vehicle for an hour. Thats an hour and a half not working. In recent weeks he has been hiding his time card for obvious reasons. He just happened to leave his time card in his slot during the company dinner and I took a quick peek. He had not clocked out for lunch at all. This bothered me so much that I left the company dinner early. I wanted to pull the owner to the side and tell him everything. But, I did not want to ruin the dinner for anyone.

I have been watching this kind of stuff going on for the last two years and every time I say something to management I am told I should mind my own buisiness. I like the company and would not be in any particular rush to leave were it not for this one co-worker. My immediate supervisor and the branch manager only want to sweep it under the rug and pretend its not happening.

My question is: Should I ignore everything and keep doing my job until I can find a better one? Or should I go above the Managers heads and tell the VP or Owner? I don't wan't my co-worker fired, I only want management to pay closer attention and stop him from cheating the system.

I took my problem to God in prayer tonight. I am hopefull it will all come out in the wash. I simply do not wish to loose my job for doing what I think is right.

[AFaceInTheCrowd]

With all due respect,but if you have all this time to "spy"on your co-workers are you stealing time also?I would just stay focused on my own job and not worry about others.Are you your brother's keeper?This will all catch up with him .I would report any unsafe acts that might harm others but that's all.

[PwrInTheBld]

If you have taken your concerns through the chain of command and they tell you to "mind your own business", I would do just that. They will be the ones who are going to have to answer to the VP and owners at some point.

Maybe you could tell your co-worker that you're concerned? Let him know that his use of company time could be getting monitored?

Just a guess but, maybe you're a bit miffed because you helped get this guy the job and now he seems to be getting away with stuff you wouldn't even consider doing and all the while you are busting your hump?

Forgive me if I'm way off.....I'm no phsycologist

Try not to think about it. Move into your new apartment and enjoy

[refugepsa91]

bloodbought is right...just do your job and stop reporting him. Keep track though if possible how many times you informed management about this just in case you need it later.

I'm sure because you got him the job your feeling responsible for his actions...and feel they will reflect on you because you recommended him...but don't, after his 90 days it was out of your hands.

Love and Blessings,

Angel

[refugepsa91]

Just a guess but, maybe you're a bit miffed because you helped get this guy the job and now he seems to be getting away with stuff you wouldn't even consider doing and all the while you are busting your hump?

I'm sure because you got him the job your feeling responsible for his actions...and feel they will reflect on you because you recommended him...but don't, after his 90 days it was out of your hands.

I'm no psychologist either...but it seems we may be on to something PwrInTheBld

Love and Blessings,

Angel

[Leonard]

Why so fixated on what he does? Seems to me you've got a job to do, and I wouldn't be to worried about his effectiveness unless it affects YOUR work. Then it's time to talk to HIM, and say, "I'm having to pick up the slack for your laziness, and I'm tired of it. Carry your own weight from now on." If that doesn't solve the problem, start keeping a journal of these things, and when the smelly stuff hits the fan, you can tell management: "Well, these are my dated observations; no wonder we're behind schedule."

[Keith]

If you have taken your concerns through the chain of command and they tell you to "mind your own business", I would do just that. They will be the ones who are going to have to answer to the VP and owners at some point.

Maybe you could tell your co-worker that you're concerned? Let him know that his use of company time could be getting monitored?

Just a guess but, maybe you're a bit miffed because you helped get this guy the job and now he seems to be getting away with stuff you wouldn't even consider doing and all the while you are busting your hump?

Forgive me if I'm way off.....I'm no phsycologist 

Try not to think about it. Move into your new apartment and enjoy 

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This is my assessment. I have experience in this matter. A coworker was stealing many hours a week. I spoke to him about it and he didn't intend to change his behavior. According to the company's code of ethics, it was my responsibility to report him. I did and he was fired. I'm not happy about that but I did what I felt was right.

As PwrInTheBld said, if you reported it and they told you to stop worrying about it, then that is your answer. Ask Jesus to help you get past your personal feelings in the matter. If He instructs you to do something further, then do it. But do nothing else until then, except pray. I understand why it bothers you though. It's unfair to the people who are working hard. It's unjust if he's not "caught." Selfish thoughts aside, these are two facts. The trick is to not to become obsessed with them. Nobody ever gets away with anything scott-free, even if it looks like they are. God sees everything.

[Work in Progress]

I don't think it takes a whole lot of time to notice someone goofing off, or to take a two second glance at a time card.

If you have taken your concerns through the chain of command and they tell you to "mind your own business", I would do just that. They will be the ones who are going to have to answer to the VP and owners at some point.

That's what I was going to say also.

I totally understand your frustration. It's just plain wrong and it's irritating to see someone getting away with that, especially when you are a conscientious worker. But, you've reported it and you've gotten your answer. If you continue to make an issue of it, it will only make yourself look bad. Let it go.

One thing I've learned, and am still learning, is that what goes around almost always comes around. And I don't always have to be the one to make that happen. Be patient.

Enjoy your new place.

[O'Dannyboy]

Just a guess but, maybe you're a bit miffed because you helped get this guy the job and now he seems to be getting away with stuff you wouldn't even consider doing and all the while you are busting your hump?

Thats exactly it! Everyone who responded is correct. I had become obsessed with how much he was getting away with that I was going out of my way at times to "spy" on him.

I have reported his actions so many times that management had to have been thinking I was making half of it up. I recently mentioned to one of my other co-workers that I might have to go above the branch managers head. It managed to get beck to him and I was told I would be fired if I could not mind my own buisiness. All my efforts were out of a sense of responsibility, not only for his work habits, but with the company in mind as well. I haved washed my hands of it. I can and will no longer hold myself responsible

for my co-workers actions. If the management is willing to sweep it under the rug and continue to pay him for not working I say...So be it. Many would say I should not have concerned myself with his work habits in the first place. However I was the one having to pick up his slack. When he is behind in his work I am the one who is asked to help him and I will resentfully comply. Anyhow, when the manager found out there was a possibilty of it going over his head he was not happy. I was on vacation when he got wind but it seems he had words with my co-worker. The day I came back from vacation we had a "meeting" concerning my comments. My co-worker was quite upset and even threatened me. I can only assume that he had been reprimanded. The manager covered by saying that he had "authorised" my co-workers little trip on company time to go change clothes for the company function. Though unitentional, it seems that management is now most assuredly aware of my co-workers efforts to "get over on them" and have called him on it. They ignored all my efforts and suggestions to keep a close watch only to find I wasn't making it up. My immediate supervisor assured me they would be keeping a closer watch. I can now resume my duties with my performance in mind. I have to admit that the companies/managers lack of concern and poor judgement has reduced yet again the amount of wind in my company sail. I will continue to do my job untill my job search bares fruit. I can thank God that it is now all over. :-)

[Guest Icarus9]

Just a guess but, maybe you're a bit miffed because you helped get this guy the job and now he seems to be getting away with stuff you wouldn't even consider doing and all the while you are busting your hump?

Thats exactly it! Everyone who responded is correct. I had become obsessed with how much he was getting away with that I was going out of my way at times to "spy" on him.

I have reported his actions so many times that management had to have been thinking I was making half of it up. I recently mentioned to one of my other co-workers that I might have to go above the branch managers head. It managed to get beck to him and I was told I would be fired if I could not mind my own buisiness. All my efforts were out of a sense of responsibility, not only for his work habits, but with the company in mind as well. I haved washed my hands of it. I can and will no longer hold myself responsible

for my co-workers actions. If the management is willing to sweep it under the rug and continue to pay him for not working I say...So be it. Many would say I should not have concerned myself with his work habits in the first place. However I was the one having to pick up his slack. When he is behind in his work I am the one who is asked to help him and I will resentfully comply. Anyhow, when the manager found out there was a possibilty of it going over his head he was not happy. I was on vacation when he got wind but it seems he had words with my co-worker. The day I came back from vacation we had a "meeting" concerning my comments. My co-worker was quite upset and even threatened me. I can only assume that he had been reprimanded. The manager covered by saying that he had "authorised" my co-workers little trip on company time to go change clothes for the company function. Though unitentional, it seems that management is now most assuredly aware of my co-workers efforts to "get over on them" and have called him on it. They ignored all my efforts and suggestions to keep a close watch only to find I wasn't making it up. My immediate supervisor assured me they would be keeping a closer watch. I can now resume my duties with my performance in mind. I have to admit that the companies/managers lack of concern and poor judgement has reduced yet again the amount of wind in my company sail. I will continue to do my job untill my job search bares fruit. I can thank God that it is now all over. :-)

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Errr... Correct me if I'm wrong, but this last message was posted last friday at 1:30pm. That would mean that you were at work, and posting here?