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James 2:20

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20 But are you willing to recognize, you foolish fellow, that faith without works is useless?

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I strongly implore you to try out blueletterbible.com 

The platform is so much more helpful than any other. I will post a tutorial video in the video category.

Keep it simple and type in Ja 2 20 ...or jam 2 20 or James 2:20

Then the chapter will pop up at James 2:20 but you can scroll up if you'd like to see the earlier verses or vice versa.

If you click the reference "Jas 2:20" the Textus Receptus will pop up along with each Greek and English word with links, followed by the Morphological GNT. Of course with the Old Testament you will see the Masoretic Text and the LXX Septuagint. Fantastic tool!

Edit to add, I guess I can't post a YouTube video. Just search "Blue Letter Bible Tutorial" on YouTube. 

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1 hour ago, Your closest friendnt said:

James 2:20

 20 But are you willing to recognize, you foolish fellow, that faith without works is useless?

Amen! Also 2:26: “For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.” I believe the sense here is, not that faith is present but inactive, but that faith is not present.


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6 minutes ago, SisterWells said:

I strongly implore you to try out blueletterbible.com 

The platform is so much more helpful than any other. I will post a tutorial video in the video category.

Keep it simple and type in Ja 2 20 ...or jam 2 20 or James 2:20

Then the chapter will pop up at James 2:20 but you can scroll up if you'd like to see the earlier verses or vice versa.

If you click the reference "Jas 2:20" the Textus Receptus will pop up along with each Greek and English word with links, followed by the Morphological GNT. Of course with the Old Testament you will see the Masoretic Text and the LXX Septuagint. Fantastic tool!

Hi, and appreciate your instructional comment! Yes, I agree and have been using the BLB for the last 15 yrs. or so and I fins it the most useful because of the exhaustive cross references and the quick Greek dictionary. Also, many will notice that Strong's Dictionary can only be used in the Textus Receptus (Majority Text, e.g. KJV, etc) because it's the only translation that references the majority of Greek manuscripts of the Word. The Alexandrian manuscripts (Minority Text) omits much of the majority of existing manuscripts in the Greek NT.

God's blessings to your Family!

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4 hours ago, WordSword said:

Amen! Also 2:26: “For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.”

I believe the sense here is, not that faith is present but inactive, but that faith is not present.

 

 I believe the sense here is,

*not that faith is present but inactive,

*but that faith is not present.

..................

In James 2:26 the author is referring to a dead body (the medical term is to "a corpse "...

He is referring to someone who has died..

Here the author is letting us know what he believes...

He is telling us that the thoughts and feelings and the ability to think and reason which come to mean that the knowledge of the person who died is with the spirit of the person and are not lost...

The corpse is subjected to the blessing of the Cteator...which is from "dust to dust "...

Whether it happens that way or by drawing or any other possible way...it is to say the body is going to be decompose and is gone..as in gone...gone..never to be again....

..........this is understood that a dead body has nothing...not the ability to think so it's impossible to have anything alive in it..

Cannot believe or not to believe or doubt what has come to believe or change ones own mind about anything...

 

SO FAITH IS NOT PRESENT OR THOUGHTS OR ANYTHING ELSE IN A DEAD BODY..

THIS STATEMENT IS MUST BE CORRECT...

*********

BUT it can't be said the same for a living person...

James must have this knowledge and it must be that he wanted to make a very strong statement to build his congregation in the need not to grow tired of practicing brotherly love...

"Paul said: the one who does not work...should no be shown the kindness of charity...

He did not include those who are in need because of their ircumstances...I do not think so he did...then to whom are we going to show charity...to those who have also....when the scriptures say to show our kindness to strangers and even to our enemies...

He must have said that for those who had made their policy to be a burden to others and given the opportunity to work they refused...

2:26: “For as the body without the spirit is dead,

so faith without works is dead also.”

This comparison it seems to be out of place...

And in any case as someone may see it..is not to be used in the scripture of

James 2:20..

But are you willing you foolish fellow  to recognize that faith without works is useless...

In the above statement James is referring to someone who is still alive...and not only that he is alive but that he believes in something and he is waiting to come to pass...

But James is emphasizing that if what he Hope's to come to pass is requiring some action to be taken from him self...and he hopes what he believes still is going to happen...James says that it want happened without him doing something...

In some examples this may be correct...unless God intervenes...and show his kindness to this person...who may not even be a believer...

When the Jesus is asking us to help everyone without prejudice...it includes that he is the first one to set this example...

*This is an example that may fit in the above circumstances...

Someone is having faith and is praying or he may wish...whether he is a believer or not...to receive a pay check for work not done...for his own reasons whether frivolous or with some substance he has justified that stance...

James wants to say that will not happened...and we all may agree with him...but bot all...

Because this fella still received some help to help him survive and had some time to help him come to his senses...

Because is not only that the Lord had pity on him..and sent someone to help him...but today they are many good Samaritans believers or not...as they are good community programs who have put on watch people and find and help them before they result into crime...or die with the complain that the scriptures said that God will provide as he provides for the birds...and they want it that way...

They did not consider that birds fly to their feeding...and some times they are found injured and are nourished back to health by caring people...

Some times we have to consider that the Lord works in mysterious ways...and through caring people of all kinds.  

And sometimes will ask someone who loves him in this way also to go on a mission to help someone in this state of mind.  BEING STUBBORN IN HIS FAITH THAT THE LORD WILL PROVIDE THE WAY HE/HER EXPECTING HIM TO DO SO...

too much faith...and often without a logical mind set....

 


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49 minutes ago, Your closest friendnt said:

 

 I believe the sense here is,

*not that faith is present but inactive,

*but that faith is not present.

..................

In James 2:26 the author is referring to a dead body (the medical term is to "a corpse "...

He is referring to someone who has died..

Here the author is letting us know what he believes...

He is telling us that the thoughts and feelings and the ability to think and reason which come to mean that the knowledge of the person who died is with the spirit of the person and are not lost...

James wrote "A man may say" (2:18) he has faith, in other words a "said-faith" only, and not a proving faith. Profession of faith but not possession of faith.

 


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34 minutes ago, WordSword said:

James wrote "A man may say" (2:18) he has faith, in other words a "said-faith" only, and not a proving faith. Profession of faith but not possession of faith.

 

I know people who pretended to be the kind of a believer within the terms of the way a Pharisee would like to be...

A Pharisee does not want everyone to be a Pharisee if not how can they be single out as a Pharisee...even thought there is still room to Judge one another as they are tiers of orders among them selves...

Jesus warned about the yeast of the Pharisees...

The primary issue is and can be looked at a different points of view...

Jesus Christ knew when the right time was to tell the disciples, I am referring to the time when he asked them to go to the whole world and bring the good news to everyone...

He did not say exactly what was the good news at that time...the most important and to be very specific...

The most important is that he didn't asked them to do that before the Cross but after the Cross...

Jesus said the one who believes will be saved...and then the baptism may followed..

Jesus Christ did not say that anyone who believes is not saved till he is baptized...

That would include the faith of someone and his work to be baptized and his confession of faith...

Jesus Christ did not say that anyone who believes is not saved till he reads the bible...and confess his faith in front of witness...in baptism...

Because Jesus continued to say...the one who hears the Gospel and does not believe stands condemned...

Jesus Christ has made clear that not to worry about any kind of work that needs to be done for anyone to be saved...

Jesus Christ made quite sure that he did all the prerequisite work that was needed to be done...and the only thing left to us is to believe in him which includes the Cross...

Faith in Jesus Christ without anything else...

IS REQURDER WITH THE FORGIVENESS OF SINS.   AND THE ETERNAL LIFE...

Whether or not someone is living in the eternal Life....

 

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