Universal Reconciliation

[Wayne Murray]

My subject of study right now: Universal Reconciliation. Truthfully I think it is a false teaching. But I know zero concerning the subject and was looking for a 2^nd, 3^rd, etc. opinions. Please as the Spirit leads you respond with your constructive thoughts, information and documentation. Thank you.

Edited July 17, 2020 by Wayne Murray
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[FineLinen]

"It is in Him, and through the shedding of His blood, that we have our deliverance—the forgiveness of our offences—so abundant was God's grace,the grace which He, the possessor of all wisdom and understanding, lavished upon us, when He made known to us the secret of His will. And this is in harmony with God's merciful purpose for the government of the world when the times are ripe for it—the purpose which He has cherished in His own mind of restoring the whole creation to find its one Head in Christ; yes, things in Heaven and things on earth, to find their one Head in Him. " -Weymouth N.T. (Eph.1)

[FineLinen]

Our God is the Beginning and Ending of all. The koine root for this fact is ta panta. God is the Source, Guide & Goal of the all.

In Him everything begins, In Him everything ends.

Of - through - to ( ἐξ - διά - εἰς )

 

 

Edited December 14, 2020 by FineLinen

[FineLinen]

A Child is born

"For a child has been born—for us the gift of a son—for us!

He’ll take over the running of the world.

His names will be: Amazing Counselor, Strong God, Eternal Father, Prince of Wholeness.

His ruling authority will grow, and there’ll be no limits to the wholeness he brings....

The zeal of God-of-the-Angel-Armies will do all this." -MSG


 

[OneLight]

Scripture itself tells us not everyone is saved.  Need we look deeper to try and prove this wrong?

[Guest kingdombrat]

We are definitely in a [time] period unlike the others prior.   When i was a child we respected our Elders, listened to them, and sometimes were even corrected by them even if they were "strangers."

 

Then we jumped into a phase where we trusted no one, hate for everyone equally abounded, and life became a [business deal] where it was about getting out of it what you wanted and who cares about the next.

 

Now we are in this [ME TOO] and let's [NOT OFFEND] and accept "ALL" things like gender issues and so forth.   This world has become a hedonistic conglomeration of PANSIES!

 

So if anything, this reconciliation are Churches being dens of Satan (homosexuals for ministers) and they want the other denominations to say, it's OK!

 

It's NOT OK!

[FineLinen]

3 hours ago, OneLight said:

Scripture itself tells us not everyone is saved.  Need we look deeper to try and prove this wrong?

Scripture manifests salvation in three tenses, past, present and future, all of which are in the present progressive or continuous tense.

Cascading Love

The Long Range Plan Of Father's Desire Of At-one-ment

"He chose us to be his very own, joining us to himself even before he laid the foundation of the universe!

Because of his great love, he ordained us, so that we would be seen as holy in his eyes with an unstained innocence. For it was always in his perfect plan to adopt us as his delightful children, through our union with Jesus, the Anointed One, so that his tremendous love that cascades over us would glorify his grace—for the same love he has for his Beloved One, Jesus, he has for us.

And this unfolding plan brings him great pleasure! Since we are now joined to Christ, we have been given the treasures of redemption by his blood—the total cancellation of our sins—all because of the cascading riches of his grace."

Super abundant grace: cascading love: Abba's perfect long range plan

"This superabundant grace is already powerfully working in us, releasing within us all forms of wisdom and practical understanding. And through the revelation of the Anointed One, he unveiled his secret desires to us—the hidden mystery of his long-range plan, which he was delighted to implement from the very beginning of time. And because of God’s unfailing purpose, this detailed plan will reign supreme through every period of time until the fulfillment of all the ages finally reaches its climax—when God makes all things new in all of heaven and earth through Jesus Christ." -TPT-

Edited December 14, 2020 by FineLinen

[OneLight]

On 12/14/2020 at 12:35 PM, OneLight said:

Scripture itself tells us not everyone is saved.  Need we look deeper to try and prove this wrong?

 

21 hours ago, FineLinen said:

Scripture manifests salvation in three tenses, past, present and future, all of which are in the present progressive or continuous tense.

Cascading Love

The Long Range Plan Of Father's Desire Of At-one-ment

"He chose us to be his very own, joining us to himself even before he laid the foundation of the universe!

Because of his great love, he ordained us, so that we would be seen as holy in his eyes with an unstained innocence. For it was always in his perfect plan to adopt us as his delightful children, through our union with Jesus, the Anointed One, so that his tremendous love that cascades over us would glorify his grace—for the same love he has for his Beloved One, Jesus, he has for us.

And this unfolding plan brings him great pleasure! Since we are now joined to Christ, we have been given the treasures of redemption by his blood—the total cancellation of our sins—all because of the cascading riches of his grace."

Super abundant grace: cascading love: Abba's perfect long range plan

"This superabundant grace is already powerfully working in us, releasing within us all forms of wisdom and practical understanding. And through the revelation of the Anointed One, he unveiled his secret desires to us—the hidden mystery of his long-range plan, which he was delighted to implement from the very beginning of time. And because of God’s unfailing purpose, this detailed plan will reign supreme through every period of time until the fulfillment of all the ages finally reaches its climax—when God makes all things new in all of heaven and earth through Jesus Christ." -TPT-

By your words, I cannot figure out if you believe in Universal Salvation, as in Universalism.  Do you believe that everyone ever lived will be saved in the end?  If so, what about His other creations, the fallen angels?  Can't be more clear in these questions.

[Guest kingdombrat]

18 minutes ago, OneLight said:

 

By your words, I cannot figure out if you believe in Universal Salvation, as in Universalism.  Do you believe that everyone ever lived will be saved in the end?  If so, what about His other creations, the fallen angels?  Can't be more clear in these questions.

Excellent questions brought forth!

 

Technically, the Nephilim were 50% human from their mother's side.   We know the Flood of Noah was designed to kill them.   But because they are 50% human, does Universalism/Salvation mean they are in Heaven?

 

Then we have literal humans like the [Amalekite] who God ordered Saul to completely destroy.   For those Amalekite's who Saul did kill, are we now extending these Universal Salvation in the form of "Past-Present-Future?"

 

Why would God order a people or kill a people Himself and then offer Salvation to them?    Where is the logic in that?   And it's not just they are human's, but it's what they literally represented that caused God to order and react like He did.

Edited December 15, 2020 by kingdombrat

[FineLinen]

28 minutes ago, OneLight said:

 

By your words, I cannot figure out if you believe in Universal Salvation, as in Universalism.  Do you believe that everyone ever lived will be saved in the end?  If so, what about His other creations, the fallen angels?  Can't be more clear in these questions.

Our God is  ta panta, the Beginning and Ending of the all. The prophets and sages of the Glorious God, from whom all comes and all ends, clearly declares a time of apokatastasis when the all shall be restored to Him  changed and transformed.