Universal Reconciliation

[Guest kingdombrat]

1 minute ago, FineLinen said:

There is no word in koine using the word damn/ damned or damnation.

kataginosko articulates the judgement of God out of which comes radical change and transformation. RADICAL !  

The Beloved John wrote the Apocalypse (Revelation) in Greek and mentions burning, tormented forever and ever.   Then at the Final Judgement wrote God telling those to depart from Him forever and He [never knew them].   And then it goes onto reveal everyone is cast in the "Lake of Fire" to be there forever.

 

So whether we believe in a physical {hell} outside the "grave," we know it all ends up in a Lake of Fire.

 

So, yes or no, do you believe those cast in the Lake of Fire will be redeemed by God later on?

[FineLinen]

3 minutes ago, kingdombrat said:

The Beloved John wrote the Apocalypse (Revelation) in Greek and mentions burning, tormented forever and ever.   Then at the Final Judgement wrote God telling those to depart from Him forever and He [never knew them].   And then it goes onto reveal everyone is cast in the "Lake of Fire" to be there forever.

 

So whether we believe in a physical {hell} outside the "grave," we know it all ends up in a Lake of Fire.

 

So, yes or no, do you believe those cast in the Lake of Fire will be redeemed by God later on?

God is the God of salvation. His salvation radiates from His essence which is Fire. The Lake of theion and theioo is the glorious gateway for all segments of fallen creatures. The end of all creation, ALL, is Him!

[Guest kingdombrat]

1 minute ago, FineLinen said:

God is the God of salvation. His salvation radiates from His essence which is Fire. The Lake of theion and theioo is the glorious gateway for all segments of fallen creatures. The end of all creation, ALL, is Him!

Because you are unable to give straight forth answers and continue this circular reasoning it's very difficult to want to conclude whatever it is you Believe is something that will give us the run around.   Questions have been presented in [yes/no] formats and you respond with an entire pages of some human beings thoughts.   The Bible is God's inspired WORD.   It cuts like a 2 edge sword.   Your descriptions are like feathers tickling a baby.   Clearly you believe those in Hell, those who will be in the Lake of Fire are going to eventually be freed.   So the words burning and their smoke forever and ever don't mean anything to you.   It's as if the Bible is lying.   That's just how I see it.   I hope I am wrong here.

[Guest kingdombrat]

God [is not] Santa Clause where a parent still gives present to their children knowing they have been good or bad.   He gives {just rewards}.   A man who lives for God VS a man who denies God [do not] get the same reward.   Universalism is a complete LIE directly from SATAN!

[FineLinen]

The Lake of Fire is NOT hell. Hell (in all four aspects) are cast into the Lake of all lakes. There is exactly one segment of Christian (or anyone) who is not "hurt" by the Lake of Theos. They are known as an "overcomer". The overcomer cannot be hurt: they have been hurt and hurt and hurt until nothing is left to hurt.

I wish you well on your journey into Him!  

[FineLinen]

24 minutes ago, kingdombrat said:

God [is not] Santa Clause where a parent still gives present to their children knowing they have been good or bad.   He gives {just rewards}.   A man who lives for God VS a man who denies God [do not] get the same reward.   Universalism is a complete LIE directly from SATAN!

Dear St. Paul: Please be advised that what you have articulated is a complete lie of satan (according to Brat).

"It is in Him, and through the shedding of His blood, that we have our deliverance—the forgiveness of our offences—so abundant was God's grace,the grace which He, the possessor of all wisdom and understanding, lavished upon us, when He made known to us the secret of His will. And this is in harmony with God's merciful purpose for the government of the world when the times are ripe for it—the purpose which He has cherished in His own mind of restoring the whole creation to find its one Head in Christ; yes, things in Heaven and things on earth, to find their one Head in Him. " -W.N.T.

Edited December 16, 2020 by FineLinen

[FineLinen]

I Believe

I believe that “God is love.” -1 John 4:8

I believe that “love never fails.” -1 Cor. 13:8

I believe that God never fails.

I believe “herein is love, not that we loved God, but that He loves us, and sent His Son to be the propitiation for our sins.” -1 John 4:10

I believe “God is love, and all who live in love live in God, and God lives in them.” -1 John 4:16

I believe Jesus Christ "is the propitiation for our sins and not for our sins only but the sins of the whole world. -1 John 2:2

I Believe

I believe “every creature which is in heaven and on the earth and under the earth and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, I heard saying: blessing and honour and glory and power to him who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb, forever and ever.” -Rev. 5:13

I believe that “in the name of Jesus every knee shall bow in heaven and on the earth and under the earth, and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.” -Phil. 2: 10,11

I believe “all nations whom God has made will come and worship before him.” -Psl. 86:9

I believe “God’s mercy endures forever.” -1 Chron. 16:34

I believe God’s Spirit “will be poured out on all flesh.” -Joel 2:28

I believe that “the leaves of the Tree of Life are for the healing of the nations.” -Rev. 22:2

I believe “that there shall no longer be a curse upon anything.” -Rev. 22:3

[Guest kingdombrat]

1 hour ago, FineLinen said:

I Believe

I believe that “God is love.” -1 John 4:8

I believe that “love never fails.” -1 Cor. 13:8

I believe that God never fails.

I believe “herein is love, not that we loved God, but that He loves us, and sent His Son to be the propitiation for our sins.” -1 John 4:10

I believe “God is love, and all who live in love live in God, and God lives in them.” -1 John 4:16

I believe Jesus Christ "is the propitiation for our sins and not for our sins only but the sins of the whole world. -1 John 2:2

I Believe

I believe “every creature which is in heaven and on the earth and under the earth and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, I heard saying: blessing and honour and glory and power to him who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb, forever and ever.” -Rev. 5:13

I believe that “in the name of Jesus every knee shall bow in heaven and on the earth and under the earth, and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.” -Phil. 2: 10,11

I believe “all nations whom God has made will come and worship before him.” -Psl. 86:9

I believe “God’s mercy endures forever.” -1 Chron. 16:34

I believe God’s Spirit “will be poured out on all flesh.” -Joel 2:28

I believe that “the leaves of the Tree of Life are for the healing of the nations.” -Rev. 22:2

I believe “that there shall no longer be a curse upon anything.” -Rev. 22:3

Nowhere do I see that [you] believe that God is {JUST}!

A Just God is [everything] you have included plus (+) allow humans to choose to either be with Him or to be against/away from Him.

[FineLinen]

11 minutes ago, kingdombrat said:

Nowhere do I see that [you] believe that God is {JUST}!

A Just God is [everything] you have included plus (+) allow humans to choose to either be with Him or to be against/away from Him.

The essence of our Heavenly Lord (not a characteristic} is LOVE/ SPIRIT/LIGHT/PROPITIATION out of which flows perfect justice to His creative enterprise of the universe.

Mans broken will of sin and despair is not the foundation for what justice is and does. The Lord of Glory is!

You did not choose, I did. 

 

[Guest kingdombrat]

4 minutes ago, FineLinen said:

 

God would be a cruel God if a human being lived their life purposefully denying God, saying I don't believe, I'd rather be in hell, take your God baloney and shove it and then force that human to spend eternity in Heaven.

 

Why would God force that person to be with Him knowing that they hate God?

Edited December 16, 2020 by kingdombrat