My Take On Sin

[Peterlag]

1 hour ago, RonaldBruno said:

I gave the exact same canned answer in the other thread. So your answer then is NO you do not have the flesh anymore - since as you say Christ destroyed it.

That explains everything. Your theology is WRONG. NEXT!

I'm not sure what the difference is between an answer and a canned answer. However, you are correct. I believe the old man is dead.

[RonaldBruno]

2 hours ago, Peterlag said:

I'm not sure what the difference is between an answer and a canned answer. However, you are correct. I believe the old man is dead.

Actually you gave the exact same answers word for word to three different posts from different people, then in your other thread, about the unlimited Power of God that we have available to us, you used  the exact same posts also several times. That shows laziness, it is inconsiderate to those who have made an effort and you devalue it by cut and pasting a general "canned" response. 

So what is your definition of the flesh, since you think the old man is dead and buried and btw, what do you think you are walking around in? 

"Mortification of the flesh is an act by which an individual or group seeks to mortify, or put to death, their sinful nature, as a part of the process of sanctification. In Christianity, common forms of mortification that are practiced to this day include fasting, abstinence, as well as pious kneeling."

"For if you live according to the flesh you will die; but if by the Spirit you put to death the deeds of the body, you will live." Rom. 8:13

This verse is talking about those who are walking in the Spirit. They are actively, willingly, gradually putting to death the deeds of the flesh.

Sanctification instant spiritually, but a process concerning our flesh. Spiritual growth is not only growth in knowledge, but also the practicing and perfecting love. We fail to love others as we should BECAUSE OUR FLESH GETS IN THE FAIL. That was another question I asked as well. Do you think you love others as yourself all the time or do you fail sometimes?

 

[Peterlag]

2 hours ago, RonaldBruno said:

Actually you gave the exact same answers word for word to three different posts from different people, then in your other thread, about the unlimited Power of God that we have available to us, you used  the exact same posts also several times. That shows laziness, it is inconsiderate to those who have made an effort and you devalue it by cut and pasting a general "canned" response. 

So what is your definition of the flesh, since you think the old man is dead and buried and btw, what do you think you are walking around in? 

"Mortification of the flesh is an act by which an individual or group seeks to mortify, or put to death, their sinful nature, as a part of the process of sanctification. In Christianity, common forms of mortification that are practiced to this day include fasting, abstinence, as well as pious kneeling."

"For if you live according to the flesh you will die; but if by the Spirit you put to death the deeds of the body, you will live." Rom. 8:13

This verse is talking about those who are walking in the Spirit. They are actively, willingly, gradually putting to death the deeds of the flesh.

Sanctification instant spiritually, but a process concerning our flesh. Spiritual growth is not only growth in knowledge, but also the practicing and perfecting love. We fail to love others as we should BECAUSE OUR FLESH GETS IN THE FAIL. That was another question I asked as well. Do you think you love others as yourself all the time or do you fail sometimes?

 

I already wrote this stuff down. So I don't need to write it again. If I can't send you what I already wrote. Then I will send you nothing.

[Speks]

12 hours ago, Peterlag said:

E. W. Bullinger writes much about the giver and His gift. When to capitalized the word spirit in the Bible which we have in all caps in many of the earlier translations.

Hello Peter. Bullinger certainly did write plenty and had very strong views about the theories of Dispensationalism. He believed the earth is flat, although we can cut him some slack there back in the day.

He also expressed striking views about the Holy Spirit and holy spirit (based around pneuma hagion: "power from on high"). It should be significant that major translations of the NT dont share his views.

In his writing (his work I have so far examined) he does capitalise: "Holy Spirit" and refers to God's Spirit as "He", etc. 

But your reply above doesn't address your comment, "This spirit is indeed a life form".

Edited September 6, 2020 by Speks
Clarification

[Peterlag]

5 minutes ago, Speks said:

Hello Peter. Bullinger certainly did write plenty and had very strong views about the theories of Dispensationalism. He believed the earth is flat, although we can cut him some slack there back in the day.

He also expressed striking views about the Holy Spirit and holy spirit (pneuma hagion: "power from on high"). It should be significant that major translations of the NT dont share his views.

In his writing (his work I have so far examined) he does capitalise: "Holy Spirit" and refers to God's Spirit as "He", etc. 

But your reply above doesn't address your comment, "This spirit is indeed a life form".

Bullinger is my teacher. If he is wrong than I will be too. I will list a few places where I see this spirit being mentioned in humans...

Romans
serve with my spirit in the gospel of his Son
serve in newness of spirit
fervent in spirit serving the Lord
1 Corinthians
have received not the spirit of the world but the spirit which is of God
Ephesians
be renewed in the spirit of your mind
Philippians
worship God in the spirit
1 Thessalonians
your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless
2 Timothy
The Lord Jesus Christ be with thy spirit

[Speks]

We are indeed body, soul and spirit, and in our overall context here Hebrews 4:12 is particularly significant. 

We all have many points-of-view on many subjects, but there is wisdom in putting the balance of Scripture before any particular teacher, especially one as independently vocal as Mr Bullinger was throughout his life. It's all to easy to adopt some of the characteristics and quirks of others which in turn may obscure what Christ Himself would reveal to you in other ways.

Anyway, thanks for your reply.

[RonaldBruno]

10 hours ago, Peterlag said:

I already wrote this stuff down. So I don't need to write it again. If I can't send you what I already wrote. Then I will send you nothing.

Again, you are very illusive, avoiding 3 questions in there ... not very transparent and THAT speaks volumes of the fleshy nature you are consciously hiding and in denial that you have.

All Christians walk in the Spirit but also still sin. Sin  dwells in the members of your flesh apparently don't think you have flesh. This is a mental block and will impede spiritual growth which requires the Christian to cooperate with the Spirit to daily mortify the flesh. 

[WayneS]

7 hours ago, Speks said:

Hello Peter. Bullinger certainly did write plenty and had very strong views about the theories of Dispensationalism. He believed the earth is flat, although we can cut him some slack there back in the day.

He also expressed striking views about the Holy Spirit and holy spirit (based around pneuma hagion: "power from on high"). It should be significant that major translations of the NT dont share his views.

In his writing (his work I have so far examined) he does capitalise: "Holy Spirit" and refers to God's Spirit as "He", etc. 

But your reply above doesn't address your comment, "This spirit is indeed a life form".

Speks,

Educated and soft spoken people like you are the reason that I’m here on this site. I had no knowledge of Bullinger and did a little research on them this morning. Appreciate your insights. 
 

[Peterlag]

3 hours ago, RonaldBruno said:

Again, you are very illusive, avoiding 3 questions in there ... not very transparent and THAT speaks volumes of the fleshy nature you are consciously hiding and in denial that you have.

All Christians walk in the Spirit but also still sin. Sin  dwells in the members of your flesh apparently don't think you have flesh. This is a mental block and will impede spiritual growth which requires the Christian to cooperate with the Spirit to daily mortify the flesh. 

I don't hide from questions. If you can't hear what I'm saying it's probably because I teach Christ and you teach man. There is no sin in Christ and I'm in him.

[RonaldBruno]

20 hours ago, Peterlag said:

I don't hide from questions. If you can't hear what I'm saying it's probably because I teach Christ and you teach man. There is no sin in Christ and I'm in him.

Are you not a man? Are you not walking around in your flesh? Or are you composed of spirit only?

"And ah for a man to arise in me, That the man I am may cease to be!"  Tennyson