When Y'shua returns We all will be learning Torah

[JohnD]

What will surprise folk the most is how the underlying theme

(yea the very foundation) of Torah is Grace.

Grace from Genesis 1 to Revelation 22.

Faith / belief / trust in our Creator who loves us more than we realize

who gave us Torah to teach and to warn and to prove only his love and

believing him suffices (especially through this life).

Yeshua gave Torah and in fact is Torah. And his righteousness imputed

to us is that of the fulness of keeping Torah perfectly (which he did and he is).

I can just see the shocked look on people's faces.

This is what our YHVH meant when he said our righteousness must exceed the 

Sadducees and Pharisees... we must have his Yeshua Jesus' righteousness who not only 

fulfilled Torah but never had a sin nature to begin with.

That's the wrap humanity could never beat even if otherwise keeping Torah perfectly.

The only way we can keep Torah is faith in Messiah.

[Jedi4Yahweh]

On 9/6/2020 at 2:29 AM, R. Hartono said:

Matthew 5:17 Says Jesus didnt come to change the Law but to fulfill it.

And God has given the new covenant Which is love God n love ur neighbour. On this two hangs all the law.

Matt 22:40 all laws n prophets is based on these two.

And this is all we need to learn as well as in Millennium.

Save ur Hebrew course tuition for your poor neighbour. If u know what this means.

All the Law hangs in those two commandments it was this way in the OT as well its not a new NT teaching.  Yahshua said all the of God's law is based on the two commandments of Loving God and loving your neighbor.  So, If you truly love God and neighbor then that means you are also keeping all that other commandments.  God is the one who defines what Loving God and Loving your neighbor means through his Law.  If you love God your not going to server other gods or idols, or blaspheme his name, or dishonor his Sabbath.  If you love your neighbor your not going to murder, lie, steal, cheat, covet, dishonor your parents or commit adultery with your neighbor.

The Law of God is eternal. Yahshua said he did not come to abolish the Law or Prophets but to fulfill.  The word fulfill does not mean abolish it means to fill up to accomplish not abolish.  Yahshua taught us to keep the commandments to higher standard such if you hate your brother you have committed murdered.  If you lust in your heart for another person body you have already committed adultery.  Yahshua went on to say he that breaks the least of the commandments and teaches other not to keep the commandments will be called the least and those who do and teach his law will be called called great in his Kingdom.

The Law teaches us that its a sin to serve other gods, blaspheme God's name, murder, commit adultery (sexual immorality), dishonor your parents, lying, stealing, covertness which is God's Law.

Last I checked those sins still will keep you out of the kingdom of God even according to Paul:

Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are [these]; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told [you] in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. - Gal 5:19-21 KJV

Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate (homosexuality), nor abusers of themselves with mankind, Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. - 1Co 6:9-10 KJV

 

 

Edited September 7, 2020 by Jedi4Yahweh

[Completed Israelite]

Hey folks, lol....I will go all out and shock you all...in Zecheriah....all "Gentiles" will be keeping The Feast of sukkot! Look for yourself haha, this is wh3n Messiah return...aka THANKSGIVING OFFERINGS. Yes, sacrifices and the temple, and Elohim on Earth. Halleluyah 

 

[JohnR7]

6 hours ago, Who me said:

no one will say know the law for they will know it.

 

We know the law but not in a literal way.  The pastors with two year degrees seem to understand best how the Bible applies to us and our life because they depend on the Holy Spirit to help them understand.  

[JohnR7]

15 minutes ago, CompletedJew said:

all "Gentiles" will be keeping The Feast of sukkot!

For 1,000 years the nations will send a representative to Jerusalem. "Then all the survivors from the nations that came against Jerusalem will go up year after year to worship the King, the LORD of Hosts, and to celebrate the Feast of Tabernacles. And should any of the families of the earth not go up to Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD of Hosts, then the rain will not fall on them" (Zechariah 14:16,17) If they do not go they will have a drought and their crops will fail.  

[Completed Israelite]

On 9/6/2020 at 3:29 AM, R. Hartono said:

Matthew 5:17 Says Jesus didnt come to change the Law but to fulfill it.

And God has given the new covenant Which is love God n love ur neighbour. On this two hangs all the law.

Matt 22:40 all laws n prophets is based on these two.

And this is all we need to learn as well as in Millennium.

Save ur Hebrew course tuition for your poor neighbour. If u know what this means.

Sir or maam, you SEEM to surley err. In what I'm am understanding as your understanding. 

And I Maybe reading wrong, but u seems very cocky. 

Hangs on Torah...yes even ORTHODOX Jews agree with this statment. Please buy a Tanach, and read Thier commentary.

Fulfill He did, He is The Goal of Torah, you see, what Messiah brought down(destroyed) was religious traditions of the Pharisees,and all.... what you should read as... The church goers. 

Bc thier traditions they broke commandments for.

When Y'shua turned water into wine he defiled the church goers tradition! 

Bc in the Temple were massive vases of stone that could only Hold water, pure spring water...(NOT in Torah) when Yeshua turned this into wine he defiled Thier whole religious out look,, CREATED OF MANS HANDS. A cistern that holds no living water.

You and many of your siblings surely err. In the same way as they did.. Halleluyah you.... are them. 

No title, no doctrine, Only God. Halleluyah.

 

And thank you form your words, but read and realise when He returns,, you maybe lucky enough to keep His feast. Zecheriah 14

[Completed Israelite]

9 minutes ago, JohnR7 said:

For 1,000 years the nations will send a representative to Jerusalem. "Then all the survivors from the nations that came against Jerusalem will go up year after year to worship the King, the LORD of Hosts, and to celebrate the Feast of Tabernacles. And should any of the families of the earth not go up to Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD of Hosts, then the rain will not fall on them" (Zechariah 14:16,17) If they do not go they will have a drought and their crops will fail.  

Amen. Thank you brother.

[JohnR7]

6 hours ago, JohnD said:

to us is that of the fulness of keeping Torah perfectly (which he did and he is).

Adam kept the Torah also for 33 years just like Jesus did. Psalm 139:16 tells us that God writes the book of our life at conception. The Angels keep track of how well we follow God plan and purpose for us and our life. These are the books that are opened. "And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God: and the books were opened, and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works (Rev-20:12)

[JohnR7]

6 minutes ago, CompletedJew said:

Please buy a Tanach, and read Their commentary.

Or read their 613 commandments. Jesus said it is enough to do what Moses tells us to do. We do not need to add to that. When I ask the conservative Rabbi how can they add to what we receive from Moses they say nothing and do not give me an answer. "For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments. And His commandments are not burdensome, because everyone born of God overcomes the world" (John 5:3,4) "They tie up heavy, cumbersome loads and put them on other people's shoulders, but they themselves are not willing to lift a finger to move them." (Matthew 23:4) 

[R. Hartono]

1 hour ago, CompletedJew said:

Sir or maam, you SEEM to surley err. In what I'm am understanding as your understanding. 

And I Maybe reading wrong, but u seems very cocky. 

Hangs on Torah...yes even ORTHODOX Jews agree with this statment. Please buy a Tanach, and read Thier commentary.

Fulfill He did, He is The Goal of Torah, you see, what Messiah brought down(destroyed) was religious traditions of the Pharisees,and all.... what you should read as... The church goers. 

Bc thier traditions they broke commandments for.

When Y'shua turned water into wine he defiled the church goers tradition! 

Bc in the Temple were massive vases of stone that could only Hold water, pure spring water...(NOT in Torah) when Yeshua turned this into wine he defiled Thier whole religious out look,, CREATED OF MANS HANDS. A cistern that holds no living water.

You and many of your siblings surely err. In the same way as they did.. Halleluyah you.... are them. 

No title, no doctrine, Only God. Halleluyah.

 

And thank you form your words, but read and realise when He returns,, you maybe lucky enough to keep His feast. Zecheriah 14

The Torah has been replaced by those 2 Decree of Jesus : love God n love your neighbour (love others as we love our belly).