Are you living in the Spirit or the letter?

[Moby]

16 minutes ago, The Light said:

My apologies brother. I thought you knew more than you do. When Jesus returns with His armies, after the wrath of God, that is when He will save the remnant. The remnant are the 1/3 Jews that flee to the protected place and go through the wrath of God.

Rom 11

²⁶ And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

²⁷ For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.

That is when ALL OF ISRAEL will be saved. The remnant will be all of Israel as the great harvest of the Jews will occur before the wrath of God. Then 2/3 of those in the nation of Israel that don't flee are killed. The 1/3 will be ALL OF ISRAEL

 

It is not the remnant that is saved before the wrath of God. It is a great harvest of the Jews from the earth as proven by the 144,000 first fruits. God will keep His promise to His CHOSEN PEOPLE. How much more their fullness. How much more shall the natural branches be grafted into THEIR OWN OLIVE TREE.

ROM 11

²⁴ For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert grafted contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be grafted into their own olive tree?

The Church will be raptured pre 70th week. The 70th week is the 1st 6 seals. That is why you see the Church in heaven in Rev 5. You can talk olive tree all you want, but you lack understanding as to the timing of when the natural branches are regrafted into THEIR OWN OLIVE TREE.

The harvest of the Jews at the 6th seal will be massive and greater than the fullness of the Gentiles. Go to your elders and tell them what they are teaching is in error.

 

Yes, every eye will see Him when He comes in the clouds at the 6th seal, which is the coming of Jesus at the end of Rev 14, which is the coming of Jesus in Matt 24. You seem to think that He is only coming once. We can tell He comes a lightning more than once.

Luke 17

²² And he said unto the disciples, The days will come, when ye shall desire to see one of the days of the Son of man, and ye shall not see it.

²³ And they shall say to you, See here; or, see there: go not after them, nor follow them.

²⁴ For as the lightning, that lighteneth out of the one part under heaven, shineth unto the other part under heaven; so shall also the Son of man be in his day.

He comes as lightning more than once as we can tell in Luke 17. One time He will come in the secret rapture of the Church and one time He will come and every eye will see Him.

As for the secret rapture in scripture. Sure it's there.

Song of Solomon 2

⁸ The voice of my beloved! behold, he cometh leaping upon the mountains, skipping upon the hills.

⁹ My beloved is like a roe or a young hart: behold, he standeth behind our wall, he looketh forth at the windows, shewing himself through the lattice.

¹⁰ My beloved spake, and said unto me, Rise up, my love, my fair one, and come away.

¹¹ For, lo, the winter is past, the rain is over and gone;

¹² The flowers appear on the earth; the time of the singing of birds is come, and the voice of the turtle is heard in our land;

¹³ The fig tree putteth forth her green figs, and the vines with the tender grape give a good smell. Arise, my love, my fair one, and come away.

¹⁴ O my dove, that art in the clefts of the rock, in the secret places of the stairs, let me see thy countenance, let me hear thy voice; for sweet is thy voice, and thy countenance is comely.

So the early summer secret rapture is in the Word of God. Now run back to your elders and tell them what they are teaching is false. Tell them there is going to be a massive harvest of the Jews across the earth during the 70th week of Daniel, just as the Word of God declares.

It might be a shock to you to realize that when lightening occurs as this verse describes it will be very visible across the earth:

Luke 17:24  for as the lightning, when it lighteneth out of the one part under the heaven, shineth unto the other part under heaven; so shall the Son of man be in his day.

Just as is promised in Revelation that Jesus will be visible to the entire earth the ONE and only time He comes in the clouds to resurrect/rapture the ONE olive tree called the elect saints:

Revelation 1:7 Behold, he cometh with the clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they that pierced him; and all the tribes of the earth shall mourn over him. Even so, Amen.

This passage also clearly proves our Lord will be very visibly "Leaping upon the mountains, Skipping upon the hills" which certainly doesn't sound very secret:

Song of Solomon 2:8  The voice of my beloved! behold, he cometh, Leaping upon the mountains, Skipping upon the hills.

Here is a link that will help you get a grip on the spiritual reality of the only resurrection/rapture that will take place AFTER the 7 years of tribulation as the year of wrath commences:

https://sumofthyword.com/2016/10/04/the-rapture-of-the-church-is-after-the-tribulation/

[The Light]

30 minutes ago, Moby said:

 

 

31 minutes ago, Moby said:

It might be a shock to you to realize that when lightening occurs as this verse describes it will be very visible across the earth:

Luke 17:24  for as the lightning, when it lighteneth out of the one part under the heaven, shineth unto the other part under heaven; so shall the Son of man be in his day.

Yea, the world will see lightning when He comes the 1st time, but the Church will see him. All the world will see Him when He comes the second time. No great mystery here. The Jews can't see until the fullness of Gentiles comes. It will come in with the rapture of the Church. Then the 12 tribes will be regrafted. Just EXACTLY LIKE THE WORD SAYS.

 

31 minutes ago, Moby said:

 

Just as is promised in Revelation that Jesus will be visible to the entire earth the ONE and only time He comes in the clouds to resurrect/rapture the ONE olive tree called the elect saints:

Revelation 1:7 Behold, he cometh with the clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they that pierced him; and all the tribes of the earth shall mourn over him. Even so, Amen.

I just showed you where the Word says He comes more than once. If you want to reject the truth, that's on you. You lack understanding. You should study the Jewish wedding and the feasts of Israel. As I said, there is a reason why Jacob worked 7 more years for his true love.

 

31 minutes ago, Moby said:

This passage also clearly proves our Lord will be very visibly "Leaping upon the mountains, Skipping upon the hills" which certainly doesn't sound very secret:

Song of Solomon 2:8  The voice of my beloved! behold, he cometh, Leaping upon the mountains, Skipping upon the hills.

Here is a link that will help you get a grip on the spiritual reality of the only resurrection/rapture that will take place AFTER the 7 years of tribulation as the year of wrath commences:

https://sumofthyword.com/2016/10/04/the-rapture-of-the-church-is-after-the-tribulation/

 

Why do you stop at verse 8. Keep reading.

Song of Solomon 2

⁹ My beloved is like a roe or a young hart: behold, he standeth behind our wall, he looketh forth at the windows, shewing himself through the lattice.

¹⁰ My beloved spake, and said unto me, Rise up, my love, my fair one, and come away.

¹¹ For, lo, the winter is past, the rain is over and gone;

¹² The flowers appear on the earth; the time of the singing of birds is come, and the voice of the turtle is heard in our land;

¹³ The fig tree putteth forth her green figs, and the vines with the tender grape give a good smell. Arise, my love, my fair one, and come away.

¹⁴ O my dove, that art in the clefts of the rock, in the secret places of the stairs, let me see thy countenance, let me hear thy voice; for sweet is thy voice, and thy countenance is comely.

He standeth behind our wall, looking forth at the windows, shewing himself through the lattice.

When he comes, the voice of the turtle will be in the land. I suspect that the turtle is pretty quiet. Have you heard turtles screaming?

In the secret places of the stairs.

Only the Church will hear him.. It will be just thunder to everyone else. Only the Church that has made herself ready will see Him. He will be behind the wall, showing himself through the lattice. He will be in the secret places of the stairs. That all sounds pretty secret to me. It is the early summer wheat harvest.

Again, let me say that you need to study the Jewish wedding, the Feasts of Israel and accept the written word of God.

[Moby]

7 hours ago, The Light said:

 

Yea, the world will see lightning when He comes the 1st time, but the Church will see him. All the world will see Him when He comes the second time. No great mystery here. The Jews can't see until the fullness of Gentiles comes. It will come in with the rapture of the Church. Then the 12 tribes will be regrafted. Just EXACTLY LIKE THE WORD SAYS.

 

I just showed you where the Word says He comes more than once. If you want to reject the truth, that's on you. You lack understanding. You should study the Jewish wedding and the feasts of Israel. As I said, there is a reason why Jacob worked 7 more years for his true love.

 

Why do you stop at verse 8. Keep reading.

Song of Solomon 2

⁹ My beloved is like a roe or a young hart: behold, he standeth behind our wall, he looketh forth at the windows, shewing himself through the lattice.

¹⁰ My beloved spake, and said unto me, Rise up, my love, my fair one, and come away.

¹¹ For, lo, the winter is past, the rain is over and gone;

¹² The flowers appear on the earth; the time of the singing of birds is come, and the voice of the turtle is heard in our land;

¹³ The fig tree putteth forth her green figs, and the vines with the tender grape give a good smell. Arise, my love, my fair one, and come away.

¹⁴ O my dove, that art in the clefts of the rock, in the secret places of the stairs, let me see thy countenance, let me hear thy voice; for sweet is thy voice, and thy countenance is comely.

He standeth behind our wall, looking forth at the windows, shewing himself through the lattice.

When he comes, the voice of the turtle will be in the land. I suspect that the turtle is pretty quiet. Have you heard turtles screaming?

In the secret places of the stairs.

Only the Church will hear him.. It will be just thunder to everyone else. Only the Church that has made herself ready will see Him. He will be behind the wall, showing himself through the lattice. He will be in the secret places of the stairs. That all sounds pretty secret to me. It is the early summer wheat harvest.

Again, let me say that you need to study the Jewish wedding, the Feasts of Israel and accept the written word of God.

I have no idea why your trying to make the 2nd chapter of Song of Solomon about a secret rapture. I agree that the Song of Solomon is talking about the bride. The very same bride that walked with Jesus over 1900 years ago:

John 3:29  He(Jesus) that hath the bride(Jesus' disciples) is the bridegroom(Jesus): but the friend of the bridegroom, that standeth and heareth him, rejoiceth greatly because of the bridegroom's voice: this my joy therefore is made full.

We must remember that Jesus commissioned His disciples as the bride to go out and make more disciples of all nations as the bride which are some of us today very very close to the time of the end of the world:

Matthew 28:19-20  Go ye(disciples~bride) therefore, and make disciples(bride) of all the nations(some bride from all nations), baptizing them(bride) into the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit:  (20)  teaching them(bride) to observe all things whatsoever I commanded you: and lo, I am with you(bride) always, even unto the end of the world.

Now lets examine where Jesus as the bridegroom tells His disciples who are the bride when He will come for them as He teaches them on the mount of Olives:

Matthew 24:3-4  And as he sat on the mount of Olives, the disciples(bride) came unto him privately, saying, Tell us(bride), when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy(bridegroom) coming, and of the end of the world?  (4)  And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man lead you(bride) astray.

Oh look! Jesus very clearly tells His disciples who are the bride that the bride will still be on the earth when the abomination of desolation is set up:

Matthew 24:15  When therefore ye(bride) see the abomination of desolation, which was spoken of through Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place (let him(bride) that readeth understand),

OH NO! Jesus very clearly tells His disciples who are part of the bride that the bride will experience "great tribulation" which we know is the last half of on 7 years of tribulation:

Matthew 24:20-22  And pray ye(bride) that your(bride) flight be not in the winter, neither on a sabbath:  (21)  for then shall be great tribulation, such as hath not been from the beginning of the world until now, no, nor ever shall be.  (22)  And except those days had been shortened, no flesh would have been saved: but for the elect's(bride) sake those days shall be shortened.

Jesus did warn His bride that there would be many in the church in these last days who think their anointed with truth but are not that will try to deceive the elect with silly ideas such as a pretrib secret rapture :

Matthew 24:24-27  For there shall arise false Christs(falsely anointed), and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders; so as to lead astray, if possible, even the elect.  (25)  Behold, I have told you beforehand.  (26)  If therefore they9false teachers) shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the wilderness; go not forth: Behold, he is in the inner chambers; believe it not.  (27)  For as the lightning cometh forth from the east, and is seen even unto the west; so shall be the coming of the Son of man.

So AFTER the bride has witnessed the abomination of desolation being set up and AFTER the bride endures the "great tribulation" then Jesus will come in the clouds to call His elect bride

Matthew 24:29-31  But immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:  (30)  and then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man(bridegroom) coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.  (31)  And he(bridegroom) shall send forth his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect(bride) from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

Mark 13:24-27  But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light,  (25)  and the stars shall be falling from heaven, and the powers that are in the heavens shall be shaken.  (26)  And then shall they see the Son of man(bridegroom) coming in clouds with great power and glory.  (27)  And then shall he(bridegroom) send forth the angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth to the uttermost part of heaven.

Luke 21:25-28  And there shall be signs in sun and moon and stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, in perplexity for the roaring of the sea and the billows;  (26)  men fainting for fear, and for expectation of the things which are coming on the world: for the powers of the heavens shall be shaken.  (27)  And then shall they see the Son of man(bridegroom) coming in a cloud with power and great glory.  (28)  But when these things begin to come to pass, look up, and lift up your(bride) heads; because your(bride) redemption draweth nigh.

How many scriptures do you need to finally realize there is only ONE resurrection/rapture AFTER the tribulation:

https://sumofthyword.com/2016/10/04/the-rapture-of-the-church-is-after-the-tribulation/

[The Light]

6 hours ago, Moby said:

I have no idea why your trying to make the 2nd chapter of Song of Solomon about a secret rapture. I agree that the Song of Solomon is talking about the bride. The very same bride that walked with Jesus over 1900 years ago:

LOL. I understand that you have no idea. Even when it is right in front of your face, you have no idea. If you don't see a secret rapture in the Song of Solomon 2, you truly do not want to understand the truth.

 

6 hours ago, Moby said:

Oh look! Jesus very clearly tells His disciples who are the bride that the bride will still be on the earth when the abomination of desolation is set up:

Matthew 24:15  When therefore ye(bride) see the abomination of desolation, which was spoken of through Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place (let him(bride) that readeth understand),

Oh lookie here, Jacob had (two brides) Leah and Rachel. His true love he had to work 7 more years to get. These numbers are not just a coincidence.

Gen 29

²⁷ Fulfil her week, and we will give thee this also for the service which thou shalt serve with me yet seven other years.

²⁸ And Jacob did so, and fulfilled her week: and he gave him Rachel his daughter to wife also.

²⁹ And Laban gave to Rachel his daughter Bilhah his handmaid to be her maid.

³⁰ And he went in also unto Rachel, and he loved also Rachel more than Leah, and served with him yet seven other years.

 

6 hours ago, Moby said:

OH NO! Jesus very clearly tells His disciples who are part of the bride that the bride will experience "great tribulation" which we know is the last half of on 7 years of tribulation:

Matthew 24:20-22  And pray ye(bride) that your(bride) flight be not in the winter, neither on a sabbath:  (21)  for then shall be great tribulation, such as hath not been from the beginning of the world until now, no, nor ever shall be.  (22)  And except those days had been shortened, no flesh would have been saved: but for the elect's(bride) sake those days shall be shortened.

OH WHAT? Jesus is clearly telling telling those that are living in Judea to flee when THEY see the abomination of desolation set up. Those aren't Gentiles. You need a dose of reality.

Matt 24

¹⁵ When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)

¹⁶ Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:

¹⁷ Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:

¹⁸ Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.

Then what happens after they flee to a place of protection. Satan cannot get to them, so Satan goes after the seed of the woman. Every person born of a Jewish woman is considered a Jew. The seed of the woman are not Gentiles. The seed of the woman are Jews.

Rev 12

¹⁴ And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.

¹⁵ And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood.

¹⁶ And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth.

¹⁷ And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

 

6 hours ago, Moby said:

Jesus did warn His bride that there would be many in the church in these last days who think their anointed with truth but are not that will try to deceive the elect with silly ideas such as a pretrib secret rapture :

Matthew 24:24-27  For there shall arise false Christs(falsely anointed), and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders; so as to lead astray, if possible, even the elect.  (25)  Behold, I have told you beforehand.  (26)  If therefore they9false teachers) shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the wilderness; go not forth: Behold, he is in the inner chambers; believe it not.  (27)  For as the lightning cometh forth from the east, and is seen even unto the west; so shall be the coming of the Son of man.

I guess it's okay for you to take verses out of context. I'm pretty sure that Jesus is referring to false Christs, such as the rider on the white horse, the 7th king and the ANTICHRIST, Nimrod, the eighth king.

Maybe you should try to understand these verses.

Matt 24

⁴³ But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up.

⁴⁴ Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh.

Luke 21

³⁶ Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.

 

6 hours ago, Moby said:

 

So AFTER the bride has witnessed the abomination of desolation being set up and AFTER the bride endures the "great tribulation" then Jesus will come in the clouds to call His elect bride

There are two brides. The Gentile Church and the Jews. All the things regarding the great tribulation have to do with the Jews. The Gentile Church will be raptured pretrib. The 70th week of Daniel is about the people of Daniel. Why do you have trouble comprehending that. Straight from the Word and yet you deny the truth because it does not fit your Churches agenda. I think you would be more interested in the truth.

Daniel 9

²⁴ Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.\

Thy people, not the Gentiles, the people of Daniel. What is so hard about understanding this verse. The 70th week of Daniel is when God turns His attention to HIS CHOSEN PEOPLE. God keeps His promise to the JEWS. The harvest will great. How much more their fullness.

6 hours ago, Moby said:

How many scriptures do you need to finally realize there is only ONE resurrection/rapture AFTER the tribulation:

 

You lack understanding as you refuse to accept what is written in the Word of God. I recommend that you study the Jewish wedding, the feasts of Israel and most of all accept what is written in the word of God.

[Moby]

4 hours ago, The Light said:

LOL. I understand that you have no idea. Even when it is right in front of your face, you have no idea. If you don't see a secret rapture in the Song of Solomon 2, you truly do not want to understand the truth.

 

Oh lookie here, Jacob had (two brides) Leah and Rachel. His true love he had to work 7 more years to get. These numbers are not just a coincidence.

Gen 29

²⁷ Fulfil her week, and we will give thee this also for the service which thou shalt serve with me yet seven other years.

²⁸ And Jacob did so, and fulfilled her week: and he gave him Rachel his daughter to wife also.

²⁹ And Laban gave to Rachel his daughter Bilhah his handmaid to be her maid.

³⁰ And he went in also unto Rachel, and he loved also Rachel more than Leah, and served with him yet seven other years.

 

OH WHAT? Jesus is clearly telling telling those that are living in Judea to flee when THEY see the abomination of desolation set up. Those aren't Gentiles. You need a dose of reality.

Matt 24

¹⁵ When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)

¹⁶ Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:

¹⁷ Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:

¹⁸ Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.

Then what happens after they flee to a place of protection. Satan cannot get to them, so Satan goes after the seed of the woman. Every person born of a Jewish woman is considered a Jew. The seed of the woman are not Gentiles. The seed of the woman are Jews.

Rev 12

¹⁴ And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.

¹⁵ And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood.

¹⁶ And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth.

¹⁷ And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

 

I guess it's okay for you to take verses out of context. I'm pretty sure that Jesus is referring to false Christs, such as the rider on the white horse, the 7th king and the ANTICHRIST, Nimrod, the eighth king.

Maybe you should try to understand these verses.

Matt 24

⁴³ But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up.

⁴⁴ Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh.

Luke 21

³⁶ Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.

 

There are two brides. The Gentile Church and the Jews. All the things regarding the great tribulation have to do with the Jews. The Gentile Church will be raptured pretrib. The 70th week of Daniel is about the people of Daniel. Why do you have trouble comprehending that. Straight from the Word and yet you deny the truth because it does not fit your Churches agenda. I think you would be more interested in the truth.

Daniel 9

²⁴ Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.\

Thy people, not the Gentiles, the people of Daniel. What is so hard about understanding this verse. The 70th week of Daniel is when God turns His attention to HIS CHOSEN PEOPLE. God keeps His promise to the JEWS. The harvest will great. How much more their fullness.

You lack understanding as you refuse to accept what is written in the Word of God. I recommend that you study the Jewish wedding, the feasts of Israel and most of all accept what is written in the word of God.

Sorry but your supposition of a secret rapture is not found anywhere in the NT that was written directly to the predominantly Gentile church.

But somehow you mange to find a "secret rapture" of the predominately Gentile Church in the OT book of Song of Solomon that was written by a physical Jew to the nation of Israel!?!?!?

Now your saying there are 2 brides based on the fact that Jacob married two wives?!?!?!

If you think Jesus was only talking about a sliver of ground in physical Israel when He used the term "Judea" then you have no idea what the difference is between the Jerusalem that now is and the Jerusalem that is above who is free which is our mother for it is the mother of Daniel as well as us:

Galatians 4:24-31  Which things contain an allegory: for these women are two covenants; one from mount Sinai, bearing children unto bondage, which is Hagar.  (25)  Now this Hagar is mount Sinai in Arabia and answereth to the Jerusalem that now is: for she is in bondage with her children.  (26)  But the Jerusalem that is above is free, which is our mother.  (27)  For it is written, Rejoice, thou barren that bearest not; Break forth and cry, thou that travailest not: For more are the children of the desolate than of her that hath the husband.  (28)  Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are children of promise.  (29)  But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, so also it is now.  (30)  Howbeit what saith the scripture? Cast out the handmaid and her son: for the son of the handmaid shall not inherit with the son of the freewoman.  (31)  Wherefore, brethren, we are not children of a handmaid, but of the freewoman.

No the white horse rider is not referring to "false christs" but a corporate body of the manchild referred to as "they" in verse 6 that will nourish the corporate body of the woman called the church who will flee into the wilderness as the tribulation commences:

Revelation 12:5-6  And she was delivered of a son, a man child, who is to rule all the nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and unto his throne.  (6)  And the woman(church) fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that there they(corporate body of manchild) may nourish her(church) a thousand two hundred and threescore days.

Once the tribulations starts and we are still here then you may figure it out I hope!

 

[Leonardo Von]

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