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Your Problem Avenaue, is that you do
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Your Problem Avenaue, is that you do
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Your thoughts are confused in this mater. God reestablished a nation to show that He will keep his word by rejecting and destroying them all over again for rejecting His Christ. Your eyes are on the wrong restoration. The restoration that fulfills the promises to Abraham comes with Christ in the resurrection, the catching away.

God re-established Israel in our day, and Israel will not be uprooted. You are thinking of the rebirth and scattering of Israel in the 1st century. Israel has been reborn in our day, and stands as a testimony to faithfulness of God. Israel according to Amos has will never be uprooted again.

And I will bring again the captivity of my people of Israel, and they shall build the waste cities, and inhabit them; and they shall plant vineyards, and drink the wine thereof; they shall also make gardens, and eat the fruit of them. And I will plant them upon their land, and they shall no more be pulled up out of their land which I have given them, saith the LORD thy God.

(Amos 9:14-15)

That is a last days prophecy about the current nation of Israel which will never be destroyed again, since God keeps His promises. You need to read your Bible.


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If I may, :(

God chose the Jews as a people, He Himself has said:

"Only if the heavens above can be measured and the foundations of the earth below be searched out will I reject all the descendants of Israel because of all they have done," -- Jeremiah 31:37

Well, Has the heavens above been measured? Has the foundations of the earth below be searched out? :thumbsup:

You and i both know that none of theses things have been answered. Therefore The Jews are Gods chosen people. :(

Romans 11:2

God did not reject his people, whom he foreknew. Don't you know what the Scripture says in the passage about Elijah

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Let me help you out of your confusion. The Church is Israel. The King of Israel, Christ is the most devout Jew who ever lived. Then there is Peter and Andrew and James and John and Philip and Bartholomew and Thomas and Matthew and James and Lebbaeus and Simon and Paul. They are all devout Jews of the Kingdom of Israel who are the beginning of the Church who will be sitting on twelve thrones in the Kingdom of God.

You are trying to combine Judaism and Christianity into a single religion. Their messiah is not coming to save them. He already came and they crucified Him and are still rejecting Him to this day. You can pray for them and winess to them but they are still only going to come out one at a time.

No, you are the one who is confused. The Church is not Israel. You are speaking of a heresy called "Replacement Theology." It is false doctrine that teaches that God has rejected the Jewish people and replaced them with a new group of people called the Church. The Bible nowhere calls the Church, "Israel." Jesus is a Jew, and He is the King of the Jews, and He will reign from Jerusalem on the throne of His Father David. They may have rejected Him, but He has not rejected them. I am sorry that you have chosen to believe an anti-Semitic doctrine such as what you are promoting above. You need to read your Bible and forget the nonsense you are promoting here.


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Wait one second there, Its time for me to step in because i am really offended here!

What I would Like to know is. Are you a Jew who never really converted to Christianity or are you a Christian converting to Judaism?

WHAT!!! Are you a fool? Pardon me, but come on, This is the truth. I agree with him 100% And i myself am a Gentile, now because i am a Gentile and believe as he does, would that make me not saved also? Also he has prove himself to Be a God fearing Christian, and a knowledgeable, wise one at that

You just can

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I side with avenaue. :P but i guess its because I haven't studied my bible enough. :laugh: Oh well, back to studying.... :P:P Stay encouraged bro. :thumbsup:

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Let me help you out of your confusion. The Church is Israel. The King of Israel, Christ is the most devout Jew who ever lived. Then there is Peter and Andrew and James and John and Philip and Bartholomew and Thomas and Matthew and James and Lebbaeus and Simon and Paul. They are all devout Jews of the Kingdom of Israel who are the beginning of the Church who will be sitting on twelve thrones in the Kingdom of God.

You are trying to combine Judaism and Christianity into a single religion. Their messiah is not coming to save them. He already came and they crucified Him and are still rejecting Him to this day. You can pray for them and winess to them but they are still only going to come out one at a time.

No, you are the one who is confused. The Church is not Israel. You are speaking of a heresy called "Replacement Theology." It is false doctrine that teaches that God has rejected the Jewish people and replaced them with a new group of people called the Church. The Bible nowhere calls the Church, "Israel." Jesus is a Jew, and He is the King of the Jews, and He will reign from Jerusalem on the throne of His Father David. They may have rejected Him, but He has not rejected them. I am sorry that you have chosen to believe an anti-Semitic doctrine such as what you are promoting above. You need to read your Bible and forget the nonsense you are promoting here.

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What I would Like to know is. Are you a Jew who never really converted to Christianity or are you a Christian converting to Judaism? You just can


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avenaue -

Shiloh is not preaching salvation through another means than Christ. I do not see why you are saying he is?

Shiloh is a Jew who has come to faith in his Messiah. I know of several "Messianic Jews," as they call themselves. The Lord never told them to forsake their natural heritage, nor their culture, nor their way of worship, nor the Feasts, nor their prayer shawls, etc.

Another thing, Peter, Paul, and the other apostles never stopped being Jews.

Romans 11:1 - I say then, has God cast away His people? Certainly not! For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin.

Galations 2:15 (Paul to Peter) - 15 "We are Jews by nature and not sinners from among the Gentiles;

I myself was born a Gentile, and by faith have been born again into the spiritual seed of Abraham. However, I acknowledge that the place and calling given on me as a Gentile believer is different from the place and calling given the natural Jews who have come to faith in Messiah Yeshua.

Ro 1:16 - For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ, for it is the power of God to salvation for everyone who believes, for the Jew first and also for the Greek.

You see, the Lord has a plan for the children of Israel, the ones now called Jews.

Zec 12:10 - "I will pour out on the house of David and on the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the Spirit of grace and of supplication, so that they will look on Me whom they have pierced; and they will mourn for Him, as one mourns for an only son, and they will weep bitterly over Him like the bitter weeping over a firstborn.

This time is coming. I look forward to seeing it! :thumbsup:

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