FluffyBunny. Posted October 28, 2020 Group: Nonbeliever Followers: 5 Topic Count: 46 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 880 Content Per Day: 0.68 Reputation: 30 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/27/2020 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/24/2004 Share Posted October 28, 2020 https://assets.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/11/2015/05/PF_15.05.05_RLS2_1_310px.png Hello, how do you feel about the decrease in Christianity and the increase in atheism in the US? Do you think society will become worse, better or stay around the same? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayne Posted October 28, 2020 Group: Royal Member Followers: 16 Topic Count: 108 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 3,824 Content Per Day: 1.29 Reputation: 4,813 Days Won: 2 Joined: 03/31/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted October 28, 2020 23 minutes ago, FluffyBunny. said: Hello, how do you feel about the decrease in Christianity and the increase in atheism in the US? Do you think society will become worse, better or stay around the same? Well, I just erased my long post that explains the great care one should take with stats/data without knowing anything of how they were collected - i.e. sample size, questions asked, etc. I always like to look at those things when I'm reading the results of "research". I always study the study before taking the results at face value. Having had several doctoral level courses in stats and data collection/reporting and actually having been trained in one course on HOW to skew the results to make them say what you want them to say - I don't always trust research reports to give the whole truth or the whole picture. I also erased my statement about what constitutes a Christian and how Biblical and legitimate Christians do not stop becoming Christians, but I could tell I was getting off track and many would disagree with me and take your thread on a rabbit hunt. So I will just say this. God wins. He will always have a remnant - a people - regardless of size. God's people may be outnumbered and even suffer, but they don't stop being his people. Yes, things are getting worse and will continue to get worse until the end when Jesus says in Matthew 24:21 that there will be horrible times - a great Tribulation - like has NEVER been seen and never will be. It's bad now, but as I tell the doom and gloom crowd - just hang on - it's about to get a lot worse. Be thankful for what we have today. That is not the fault of an atheist. It the fault of the devil. And it's the fault of humanity at large who swallows more and more lies every year about sin and evil - that includes all people of all religious beliefs. There are even Christians who don't believe in truth anymore and accept all kinds of things that God does not accept. We are a sick people indeed. I think you have drawn conclusions that cannot be perfectly drawn by a mere collection of numbers. Atheists are not the reason for the decline of the human race. The human race is. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starise Posted October 28, 2020 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 13 Topic Count: 279 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 13,105 Content Per Day: 9.69 Reputation: 13,598 Days Won: 149 Joined: 08/26/2020 Status: Offline Share Posted October 28, 2020 While I don't hold a lot of faith in any kind of study since they can be skewed, I would tend to agree the whole world is going down the loo in terms of godlessness, not only the US. It's sad to see the spiral in the US because we were once a bastion of Christianity, yet there were always those bad elements in the country from the very beginning. There are still many many Christians in the US. The voices you hear the most come over channels bought and payed for by those on the other side who have no quibbles with a dishonest representation of the facts. All of the major news outlets and newspapers are bought and payed for mostly by them. While I think there are far many Christians around than we tend to think there might be, I have seen a steady shift towards all things anti and counter Christian. This is why, in all good faith and honesty I can't call America a Christian nation. I don't think many of this present generation even know fully what a real Christian is. While we can do one of two things, repent and regain the Lord's blessing or continue to rebel, turn away from God and go right down the loo, civilizations mostly tend to DECLINE over time if left to themselves. The nation that men fought so valiantly and gave their lives for not 100 years ago has begun to look worse than the nations we were fighting to save ourselves from. If we don't get a foothold soon. I mean really soon, it's going to get worse and worse for the US. I live here and I don't want to see that happen but I fear it will when we have people who are convinced that socialism is the answer. That government control of every aspect of our lives is the answer. That we don't need what some of them want to think is a pretend God. That open occult worship is ok. Even people who say they are Christians either aren't living like it or put on a fake facade. We are attempting to redefine Christianity so it can be made a one-size-fits all. One of our very few redeeming qualities is we still ( as of now) support Israel. Trump is too cocky and Biden is oblivious. We are in BIG trouble. Half of our government ( at least) are committed to a socialist no god concept that isn't anything like christianity. This next election could be the tipping point that finally pushes us into the abyss. Into a downward spiral. There's not a lot of the apple left for the worms. We are all along for the ride. God was prepared to spare Sodom and Gomorrah for even a handful of godly people. We still have a handful. Will God spare us? To me it looks like unless we wake up really fast Judgement is on the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marathoner Posted October 28, 2020 Group: Royal Member Followers: 16 Topic Count: 72 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 10,241 Content Per Day: 7.08 Reputation: 13,252 Days Won: 99 Joined: 05/24/2020 Status: Offline Share Posted October 28, 2020 This world has always been unbelieving, lawless, and unrepentant. I am neither dismayed nor surprised because Satan is the ruler of this world, and those who cling to the world serve the master of it thereby. What difference is there between the atheist and those who serve the Lord with their lips? Or those who clamor for war against their neighbor and a murderer? Whomever hates his brother is guilty of murder (1 John 3:15). As it pertains to those who serve the Lord with their lips it is written, There is a generation that curseth their father, and doth not bless their mother. There is a generation that are pure in their own eyes, and yet is not washed from their filthiness. There is a generation, O how lofty are their eyes! and their eyelids are lifted up. There is a generation, whose teeth are as swords, and their jaw teeth as knives, to devour the poor from off the earth, and the needy from among men. (Proverbs 30:11-14) You'll find these at the forefront, goading their countrymen to send their sons and daughters to shed their blood for the sake of the vanity of men. When they stand before the Son of God and His angels on that day, their works shall be manifest in His righteous judgment: depart from Me, you who work iniquity. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FluffyBunny. Posted October 28, 2020 Group: Nonbeliever Followers: 5 Topic Count: 46 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 880 Content Per Day: 0.68 Reputation: 30 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/27/2020 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/24/2004 Author Share Posted October 28, 2020 1 minute ago, Roar said: Where is your proof that such is actually happening? I don´t have proof but I have evidence https://assets.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/11/2015/05/PF_15.05.05_RLS2_1_310px.png https://www.pewforum.org/religious-landscape-study/religious-family/atheist/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnthebaptist Posted October 28, 2020 Group: Non-Conformist Theology Followers: 6 Topic Count: 118 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 4,361 Content Per Day: 2.30 Reputation: 2,109 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/25/2019 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/03/1953 Share Posted October 28, 2020 5 hours ago, FluffyBunny. said: https://assets.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/11/2015/05/PF_15.05.05_RLS2_1_310px.png Hello, how do you feel about the decrease in Christianity and the increase in atheism in the US? Do you think society will become worse, better or stay around the same? Society was getting terribly worse here in the USA, but I believe the election of Donald Trump has turned things for the better. Hopefully he'll get reelected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FluffyBunny. Posted October 28, 2020 Group: Nonbeliever Followers: 5 Topic Count: 46 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 880 Content Per Day: 0.68 Reputation: 30 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/27/2020 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/24/2004 Author Share Posted October 28, 2020 Just now, Roar said: Evidence from an atheist with an agenda; hardly convincing in my humble opinion. I always thought that the Pew Research centre was a reliable source. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeauJangles Posted October 28, 2020 Group: Royal Member Followers: 43 Topic Count: 229 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 10,900 Content Per Day: 2.92 Reputation: 12,145 Days Won: 68 Joined: 02/13/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/14/1954 Share Posted October 28, 2020 What do you think about the decrease in Christianity and increase in atheism in the US? Good question. Do you feel it differs to anything substantial elsewhere around the world? Speaking of that, how is the level of faith in Christ Jesus in YOUR little corner of the planet? Allow me step more forward into your circle with another question. WHO is Jesus to you? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 Matt Slick wrote this back in 2006! Why is atheism and non-belief on the rise? by Matt Slick 5/23/2006 Those who identify with no religious affiliation as well as strong atheism (open denial of God), have increased in number in America over the past few years. Also, it appears that more people are also leaving the Christian faith than ever before. Why is this? I have not taken a survey to find out why, so all I can do is offer some observations based on my dealings with atheists, and those who love Christianity, that I have had over the past few years. Following is what I've gleaned as reasons for the increase of "no religious affiliation" and people leaving the Christian faith. Lack of proper action/teaching by Christians Christianity as an institution has failed in our culture Rise of secularism Hostility to Christianity in higher education Decrease in critical thinking The rise of science Increase in spiritual oppression Full article from CARM: Atheism and Non-Belief on the Rise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeauJangles Posted October 28, 2020 Group: Royal Member Followers: 43 Topic Count: 229 Topics Per Day: 0.06 Content Count: 10,900 Content Per Day: 2.92 Reputation: 12,145 Days Won: 68 Joined: 02/13/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 08/14/1954 Share Posted October 28, 2020 (edited) 53 minutes ago, FluffyBunny. said: I don´t have proof but I have evidence https://assets.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/11/2015/05/PF_15.05.05_RLS2_1_310px.png https://www.pewforum.org/religious-landscape-study/religious-family/atheist/ Internet INFORMATION is not always indicative of evidential FACTS. There's literally thousands of differing viewpoints depending on the publisher and who implements it. Just because it's available isn't always equivalent of TRUTH. We need to consider what we glean when it comes to these resources. You may or may not have heard the term, "buyer beware". When it comes to the internet it is, "user be wary". Edited October 28, 2020 by BeauJangles 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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