Babies Saved!

[apothanein kerdos]

You got it all figured out dont you, now you are accusing pro-lifers of not showing the love of christ, I am sure they will be joyfull about that!

How is this in any way a valid reply to what I addressed?

Pro-lifers do all these things who are you to accuse them? Are you out on the street getting involved or just sitting back on the sidelines making yourself look "spiritual" casting stones?

First and foremost, it is of no consequence to you what I do. I do not think for one moment holding a sign and yelling at person walking into a clinic is "involved". I believe it is cowardly.

Secondly, I share the Gospel on a weekly basis with inner city people. Instead of trying to stop abortion outright, I figure if we lead the people at the most risk to get an abortion to the Lord, you stop the problem right there, now don't you?

ou are right lets not save the life in the first place, lets just sit back and critisize pro-lifers!

This isn't what I advocated. Instead, I advocated a more active role in sharing the Gospel instead of holding up signs. This seeks to not only solve the problem of abortion, but also of child neglect, abuse, and can help to prevent future generations from seeking abortions as well.

Have you done this personally? Since you have it all figured out! Some people are called to a mercy ministry, others are called to a more aggressive reformed ministry!

I haven't helped females, but I have helped males who were talking their girlfriends into getting abortions. Instead of addressing the issue of abortion, I instead took them to the issue of their eternal status. That is a much better way to address it.

As for agressive reform ministry, no one is called to that.

I have a problem with the fact you are critisizing active pro-lifers, I have no problem with anyone who is called to a mercy ministry. Your ad-hominums may work on the uninformed but they will not work on me!

They may be active in the political spectrum, but in the Gospel one they are far from it. Again, holding up a sign and yelling at someone going into a clinic isn't "active" as far as the Gospel is concerned.

It is a baby created in the image of God

And if that baby is brought up in a family that trains it to violate the image of God via sexual sins? What then? Killing is not the only violation of God's image.

Again what are you doing about abortion besides critisizing the people that dedicate their lives trying to do something!

Sharing the Gospel...you know...the good news? Ever tried that for a change?

Kudos to anyone who is reaching women at the abortion mills. I applaud them. I've done that work many, many times so I know what it is like. Mikado was only saying that we must be diligent not to let it stop there, or we are neglecting the whole of the ministry.

Exactly, thank you WIP. Apparently trying to go the extra mile makes you a liberal though

Faith without action is dead! This guy that has all the answers is accussing pro-lifers of not doing enough. He sure can dish it out! What is he doing tell, me since you are his lawyer?

Trust me bud, I've done more against abortion than you could ever dream of accomplishing.

I suppose this sums up every single case of abortion? I suppose all childkillers are the victims and none of them have lived an immoral lifestyle looking for an easy way out?

For this very reason we should share the Gospel with them and love them. Afterall, Christ did that to you.

[Guest theonomist]

TESS

If your attitude towards "childkillers" is anything like your attitude towards fellow believers here, I sincerely doubt you've been "reaching" anyone at all.

Similiar to what they said of the prophets of old and the reformers and the great puritans. Ticking off armchair, self righteous, antinomian, dispinsational, pietists gives me much joy, thank you. I needed your approval

[apothanein kerdos]

great puritans

You mean the same ones that burned people and tried to take over an entire country?

Wow

[Kabowd]

TESS

If your attitude towards "childkillers" is anything like your attitude towards fellow believers here, I sincerely doubt you've been "reaching" anyone at all.

Similiar to what they said of the prophets of old and the reformers and the great puritans. Ticking off armchair, self righteous, antinomian, dispinsational, pietists gives me much joy, thank you. I needed your approval

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But unfortunately, not what they said of Christ. Often instead, He was accused of befriending sinners or even being one Himself.

By the way, your joy and zeal in calling believers names makes you the one guilty of piety, not those you are accusing. Pride comes before a fall, you should maybe invest in knee pads.

[Guest theonomist]

You got it all figured out dont you, now you are accusing pro-lifers of not showing the love of christ, I am sure they will be joyfull about that!

How is this in any way a valid reply to what I addressed?

Pro-lifers do all these things who are you to accuse them? Are you out on the street getting involved or just sitting back on the sidelines making yourself look "spiritual" casting stones?

First and foremost, it is of no consequence to you what I do. I do not think for one moment holding a sign and yelling at person walking into a clinic is "involved". I believe it is cowardly.

Secondly, I share the Gospel on a weekly basis with inner city people. Instead of trying to stop abortion outright, I figure if we lead the people at the most risk to get an abortion to the Lord, you stop the problem right there, now don't you?

ou are right lets not save the life in the first place, lets just sit back and critisize pro-lifers!

This isn't what I advocated. Instead, I advocated a more active role in sharing the Gospel instead of holding up signs. This seeks to not only solve the problem of abortion, but also of child neglect, abuse, and can help to prevent future generations from seeking abortions as well.

Have you done this personally? Since you have it all figured out! Some people are called to a mercy ministry, others are called to a more aggressive reformed ministry!

I haven't helped females, but I have helped males who were talking their girlfriends into getting abortions. Instead of addressing the issue of abortion, I instead took them to the issue of their eternal status. That is a much better way to address it.

As for agressive reform ministry, no one is called to that.

I have a problem with the fact you are critisizing active pro-lifers, I have no problem with anyone who is called to a mercy ministry. Your ad-hominums may work on the uninformed but they will not work on me!

They may be active in the political spectrum, but in the Gospel one they are far from it. Again, holding up a sign and yelling at someone going into a clinic isn't "active" as far as the Gospel is concerned.

It is a baby created in the image of God

And if that baby is brought up in a family that trains it to violate the image of God via sexual sins? What then? Killing is not the only violation of God's image.

Again what are you doing about abortion besides critisizing the people that dedicate their lives trying to do something!

Sharing the Gospel...you know...the good news? Ever tried that for a change?

Kudos to anyone who is reaching women at the abortion mills. I applaud them. I've done that work many, many times so I know what it is like. Mikado was only saying that we must be diligent not to let it stop there, or we are neglecting the whole of the ministry.

Exactly, thank you WIP. Apparently trying to go the extra mile makes you a liberal though 

Faith without action is dead! This guy that has all the answers is accussing pro-lifers of not doing enough. He sure can dish it out! What is he doing tell, me since you are his lawyer?

Trust me bud, I've done more against abortion than you could ever dream of accomplishing.

I suppose this sums up every single case of abortion? I suppose all childkillers are the victims and none of them have lived an immoral lifestyle looking for an easy way out?

For this very reason we should share the Gospel with them and love them. Afterall, Christ did that to you.

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Thank you for the lesson in self righteous pietism, billy graham. But since you said you have "done much for abortion" we can probably end this debate since I am sure you would not tell a lie

[apothanein kerdos]

You got it all figured out dont you, now you are accusing pro-lifers of not showing the love of christ, I am sure they will be joyfull about that!

How is this in any way a valid reply to what I addressed?

Pro-lifers do all these things who are you to accuse them? Are you out on the street getting involved or just sitting back on the sidelines making yourself look "spiritual" casting stones?

First and foremost, it is of no consequence to you what I do. I do not think for one moment holding a sign and yelling at person walking into a clinic is "involved". I believe it is cowardly.

Secondly, I share the Gospel on a weekly basis with inner city people. Instead of trying to stop abortion outright, I figure if we lead the people at the most risk to get an abortion to the Lord, you stop the problem right there, now don't you?

ou are right lets not save the life in the first place, lets just sit back and critisize pro-lifers!

This isn't what I advocated. Instead, I advocated a more active role in sharing the Gospel instead of holding up signs. This seeks to not only solve the problem of abortion, but also of child neglect, abuse, and can help to prevent future generations from seeking abortions as well.

Have you done this personally? Since you have it all figured out! Some people are called to a mercy ministry, others are called to a more aggressive reformed ministry!

I haven't helped females, but I have helped males who were talking their girlfriends into getting abortions. Instead of addressing the issue of abortion, I instead took them to the issue of their eternal status. That is a much better way to address it.

As for agressive reform ministry, no one is called to that.

I have a problem with the fact you are critisizing active pro-lifers, I have no problem with anyone who is called to a mercy ministry. Your ad-hominums may work on the uninformed but they will not work on me!

They may be active in the political spectrum, but in the Gospel one they are far from it. Again, holding up a sign and yelling at someone going into a clinic isn't "active" as far as the Gospel is concerned.

It is a baby created in the image of God

And if that baby is brought up in a family that trains it to violate the image of God via sexual sins? What then? Killing is not the only violation of God's image.

Again what are you doing about abortion besides critisizing the people that dedicate their lives trying to do something!

Sharing the Gospel...you know...the good news? Ever tried that for a change?

Kudos to anyone who is reaching women at the abortion mills. I applaud them. I've done that work many, many times so I know what it is like. Mikado was only saying that we must be diligent not to let it stop there, or we are neglecting the whole of the ministry.

Exactly, thank you WIP. Apparently trying to go the extra mile makes you a liberal though 

Faith without action is dead! This guy that has all the answers is accussing pro-lifers of not doing enough. He sure can dish it out! What is he doing tell, me since you are his lawyer?

Trust me bud, I've done more against abortion than you could ever dream of accomplishing.

I suppose this sums up every single case of abortion? I suppose all childkillers are the victims and none of them have lived an immoral lifestyle looking for an easy way out?

For this very reason we should share the Gospel with them and love them. Afterall, Christ did that to you.

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Thank you for the lesson in self righteous pietism, billy graham. But since you said you have "done much for abortion" we can probably end this debate since I am sure you would not tell a lie

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Calm down buddy, there's no need to attack anyone. We're debating ideas and actions, not people.

Now you put me in a catch.22 so it's not exactly fair to call me "self-righteous". If I didn't say anything about helping people who want abortions, you would have accused me of inaction. Since I did say I helped out, I'm accused of being self-righteous. That's a no win situation for me, so cut me some slack on that one.

[Kabowd]

You got it all figured out dont you, now you are accusing pro-lifers of not showing the love of christ, I am sure they will be joyfull about that!

How is this in any way a valid reply to what I addressed?

Pro-lifers do all these things who are you to accuse them? Are you out on the street getting involved or just sitting back on the sidelines making yourself look "spiritual" casting stones?

First and foremost, it is of no consequence to you what I do. I do not think for one moment holding a sign and yelling at person walking into a clinic is "involved". I believe it is cowardly.

Secondly, I share the Gospel on a weekly basis with inner city people. Instead of trying to stop abortion outright, I figure if we lead the people at the most risk to get an abortion to the Lord, you stop the problem right there, now don't you?

ou are right lets not save the life in the first place, lets just sit back and critisize pro-lifers!

This isn't what I advocated. Instead, I advocated a more active role in sharing the Gospel instead of holding up signs. This seeks to not only solve the problem of abortion, but also of child neglect, abuse, and can help to prevent future generations from seeking abortions as well.

Have you done this personally? Since you have it all figured out! Some people are called to a mercy ministry, others are called to a more aggressive reformed ministry!

I haven't helped females, but I have helped males who were talking their girlfriends into getting abortions. Instead of addressing the issue of abortion, I instead took them to the issue of their eternal status. That is a much better way to address it.

As for agressive reform ministry, no one is called to that.

I have a problem with the fact you are critisizing active pro-lifers, I have no problem with anyone who is called to a mercy ministry. Your ad-hominums may work on the uninformed but they will not work on me!

They may be active in the political spectrum, but in the Gospel one they are far from it. Again, holding up a sign and yelling at someone going into a clinic isn't "active" as far as the Gospel is concerned.

It is a baby created in the image of God

And if that baby is brought up in a family that trains it to violate the image of God via sexual sins? What then? Killing is not the only violation of God's image.

Again what are you doing about abortion besides critisizing the people that dedicate their lives trying to do something!

Sharing the Gospel...you know...the good news? Ever tried that for a change?

Kudos to anyone who is reaching women at the abortion mills. I applaud them. I've done that work many, many times so I know what it is like. Mikado was only saying that we must be diligent not to let it stop there, or we are neglecting the whole of the ministry.

Exactly, thank you WIP. Apparently trying to go the extra mile makes you a liberal though 

Faith without action is dead! This guy that has all the answers is accussing pro-lifers of not doing enough. He sure can dish it out! What is he doing tell, me since you are his lawyer?

Trust me bud, I've done more against abortion than you could ever dream of accomplishing.

I suppose this sums up every single case of abortion? I suppose all childkillers are the victims and none of them have lived an immoral lifestyle looking for an easy way out?

For this very reason we should share the Gospel with them and love them. Afterall, Christ did that to you.

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Thank you for the lesson in self righteous pietism, billy graham. But since you said you have "done much for abortion" we can probably end this debate since I am sure you would not tell a lie

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LOL...debate? It's only a debate when both sides are offering valid arguments. Since all you've offered is insults, slander and ridiculous mockery...I'd hardly call it a debate.

[Guest theonomist]

Now I understand, this is another website that makes jesus into the hippi little pot smoking pacifist, that just floats along in life loving people but has no standard of righteousness and no opinion but relativism.

[apothanein kerdos]

Now I understand, this is another website that makes jesus into the hippi little pot smoking pacifist, that just floats along in life loving people but has no standard of righteousness and no opinion but relativism.

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Again, how is that a valid argument? Which part of what we said was "hippie pot smoking" jargin? More specifically, what was post-modern about what we said? I'm failing to see where this occured.

[Guest theonomist]

Now I understand, this is another website that makes jesus into the hippi little pot smoking pacifist, that just floats along in life loving people but has no standard of righteousness and no opinion but relativism.

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Again, how is that a valid argument? Which part of what we said was "hippie pot smoking" jargin? More specifically, what was post-modern about what we said? I'm failing to see where this occured.

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Never mind, I am finished talking to you self righteous heretics, I can already see the dishonesty shining through in your posts, you can call me mean and unchristlike all you want to try to make yourselves look"spiritual". It is called using ad-hominums. Go find somone else to impress with your fake billy graham "christlikeness". You have fought abortion as much as billy graham! I rather be reading a book.