3 Raptures: Passover, Pentecost, and Tabernacles

[Moby]

31 minutes ago, Walter Goraj jr said:

I believe "year" is used to illustrate a "revolution of time" as the Hebrew dictionary would allow. And the fact remains that the phrase " year of wrath" is nowhere to be found in scripture.  

Wrath is sudden. It is destructive and fiery in nature. It is not going to go on for a year. 

" But the day of the Lord will co.e as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise,  and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up." ( 2 Peter 3:10)

" Thief in the night " is not "year".

 

Father didn't say He was going to broadcast His prophecies but conceal them so that we as kings under our King are to seek the message out as precept upon precept:

Proverbs 25:2  It is the glory of God to conceal a thing; But the glory of kings is to search out a matter.

Isaiah 28:9-10  Whom will he teach knowledge? and whom will he make to understand the message? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts?  (10)  For it is precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, there a little.

These four verses when combined as precept upon precept clearly gives us a clue that “the day of the Lord” is also called “the day of vengeance of our God” to proclaim “the year of the Lord’s favor” that He also declares is “the year of recompense” and the “year of the His redeemed” when he pours out His wrath which comes  after the tribulation is over and the sun and moon are darkened:

Jeremiah 46:10 For this is the day of the Lord GOD of hosts, a day of vengeance, that he may avenge him of his adversaries: and the sword shall devour, and it shall be satiate and made drunk with their blood: for the Lord GOD of hosts hath a sacrifice in the north country by the river Euphrates.

Isaiah 34:8 For Jehovah has a day of vengeance, the year of recompense for the cause of Zion.

Isaiah 61:2 to proclaim the year of the Lord’s favor, the day of vengeance of our God; to comfort all that mourn;

Isaiah 63:4 For the day of vengeance was in my heart, the year of my redeemed is come.

Edited December 21, 2020 by Moby

[JohnD]

21 hours ago, Walter Goraj jr said:

( Mt. 25:13): " Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh."

"..........but Lord, I have a chart."

Ah... but until the temple sacrifice is abated... we will not know when the 70th Week of Daniel actually begins.

The day or hour... no.

The season... YES!

[JohnD]

17 hours ago, Moby said:

Sorry bro but the 1335 days run concurrently with the 1290 days as this passage clarifies when it says: "from the time that the continual burnt-offering shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up":

Daniel 12:11-12  And from the time that the continual burnt-offering shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand and two hundred and ninety days.  (12)  Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.

So the phrase "from the time" means both sets of days are starting from the same point.

 

Nope.

Daniel 12:11–12 (NASB95)
11 “From the time that the regular sacrifice is abolished and the abomination of desolation is set up, there will be 1,290 days.

1290 days of time left.

12 “How blessed is he who keeps waiting and attains to the 1,335 days!

If time ends on 1290, then 1335 must either refer to a point prior to the cessation of the sacrifices or 

a point (still in the 70th Week of Daniel) that started counting from a point prior to the cessation).

The text in verse 11 does not appear to equate the 1290th day and the 1335th day as the same day with two distinct countdown origins...

so the beginning of the 70th Week of Daniel itself is the obvious origin of the 1335th day.

 

 

[Moby]

1 hour ago, JohnD said:

Nope.

Daniel 12:11–12 (NASB95)
11 “From the time that the regular sacrifice is abolished and the abomination of desolation is set up, there will be 1,290 days.

1290 days of time left.

12 “How blessed is he who keeps waiting and attains to the 1,335 days!

If time ends on 1290, then 1335 must either refer to a point prior to the cessation of the sacrifices or 

a point (still in the 70th Week of Daniel) that started counting from a point prior to the cessation).

The text in verse 11 does not appear to equate the 1290th day and the 1335th day as the same day with two distinct countdown origins...

so the beginning of the 70th Week of Daniel itself is the obvious origin of the 1335th day.

 

 

You are missing this very critical fact that the very first time the sun and moon are darkened it divides the 7 years of tribulation from "the day of the Lord":

Now lets take a look at how Father gave us the sun, moon, and stars for signs to prove there is another year after the tribulation when the wrath of God is poured out:

Genesis 1:14-16 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days and years: (15) and let them be for lights in the firmament of heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so. (16) And God made the two great lights; the greater light(sun) to rule the day, and the lesser light(moon) to rule the night: he made the stars also.

1 Thessalonians 5:9 For God appointed us not unto wrath, but unto the obtaining of salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ,

Let’s go back to the Olivet discourse where Jesus gives us our first sign:

Matthew 24:29 But immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

So “immediately after the tribulation” the sun and moon are darkened but this darkened sun and moon happens “before” the great and notable day of the Lord comes:

Acts 2:20 The sun shall be turned into darkness, And the moon into blood, Before the day of the Lord come, That great and notable day.

Joel 2:30-31 And I will show wonders in the heavens and in the earth: blood, and fire, and pillars of smoke. (31) The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and terrible day of Jehovah cometh.

So Jesus opens the 6th seal to show wonders in the heavens and in the earth: blood, and fire, and pillars of smoke that cause the sun and moon to darken to mark the end of the 7 years of tribulation and the beginning of “the day of the Lord” where God and His Lamb pour out their wrath:

Revelation 6:12-17 And I saw when he opened the sixth seal, and there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the whole moon became as blood; (13) and the stars of the heaven fell unto the earth, as a fig tree casteth her unripe figs when she is shaken of a great wind. (14) And the heaven was removed as a scroll when it is rolled up; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places. (15) And the kings of the earth, and the princes, and the chief captains, and the rich, and the strong, and every bondman and freeman, hid themselves in the caves and in the rocks of the mountains; (16) and they say to the mountains and to the rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb: (17) for the great day of their wrath is come; and who is able to stand?

Zephaniah 1:14-15 The great day of the Lord is near, it is near and hasteth greatly, even the voice of the day of Jehovah; the mighty man crieth there bitterly. (15) That day is a day of wrath, a day of anguish and distress, a day of wasteness and desolation, a day of darkness and gloominess, a day of clouds and thick darkness,

Zephaniah, Isaiah, Paul, and Peter are speaking of the exact same “day of the Lord” that is to come “after the tribulation”:

Isaiah 13:9 Behold, the day of the Lord cometh, cruel, with wrath and fierce anger; to make the land a desolation, and to destroy the sinners thereof out of it.

1 Thessalonians 5:2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.

2 Peter 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall be dissolved with fervent heat, and the earth and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

So lets see if we can find some more clues as to how long “the day of the Lord” is:

Jeremiah 46:10 For this is the day of the Lord GOD of hosts, a day of vengeance, that he may avenge him of his adversaries: and the sword shall devour, and it shall be satiate and made drunk with their blood: for the Lord GOD of hosts hath a sacrifice in the north country by the river Euphrates.

Isaiah 34:8 For Jehovah has a day of vengeance, the year of recompense for the cause of Zion.

Isaiah 61:2 to proclaim the year of the Lord’s favor, the day of vengeance of our God; to comfort all that mourn;

Isaiah 63:4 For the day of vengeance was in my heart, the year of my redeemed is come.

From those 4 passages above we can conclude “the day of the Lord” is also called “the day of vengeance of our God” to proclaim “the year of the Lord’s favor” that He also declares is “the year of recompense” and the “year of the His redeemed” when he pours out His wrath which comes  after the tribulation is over and the sun and moon are darkened:

Mark 13:24-25 But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, (25) and the stars shall be falling from heaven, and the powers that are in the heavens shall be shaken.

The Father causes the sun and moon to become darkened for the first time to announce the start of the great day/year of their wrath and then a second time at the sounding of the 4th trumpet:

Revelation 8:12 And the fourth angel sounded, and the third part of the sun was smitten, and the third part of the moon, and the third part of the stars; that the third part of them should be darkened, and the day should not shine for the third part of it, and the night in like manner.

And again at the sounding of the 5th trumpet:

Revelation 9:1-2 And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit. (2) And he opened the bottomless pit; and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit.

Edited December 21, 2020 by Moby

[Leonardo Von]

On 12/20/2020 at 12:35 PM, Rapture and End Times said:

The traditional view of the Rapture is that there is only one harvest, and then comes the end. However, Scripture gives abundant witness that it consists of three "Raptures" symbolized by the 3 main Jewish feasts, Passover, Pentecost and Tabernacles:

https://raptureandendtimes.com/2020/12/19/3-raptures-passover-pentecost-and-tabernacles/

Very interesting. I never thought in these association. This confirms that the first resurrection is in four stages: Christ (the first fruits - 1Cor 15:23), and the elects, in three harvests.