Are Fossils evidence of evolution ....or are the evidence of fossils

[The Barbarian]

Everyone has an opinion.   Facts are harder to get.  What do you have?

12 hours ago, Eternally Gratefull said:

I got my belief by reading and studying multiple scientific studies, there are for to many to read, 

So nothing at all?   Maybe just one thing?   What do you have?

[The Barbarian]

9 hours ago, Sparks said:

No instrument can tell you the time it was lit, just as no instrument can tell you how old a stone is, or lava flow.

Turns out, argon/argon testing dated the flow that buried Pompeii quite precisely.  So we know it works.

https://www.berkeley.edu/news/media/releases/97legacy/pompeii.html

[Eternally Gratefull]

9 hours ago, The Barbarian said:

Everyone has an opinion.   Facts are harder to get.  What do you have?

So nothing at all?   Maybe just one thing?   What do you have?

What makes a fossil,  and what made them to be found where they are found all around the globe?

[The Barbarian]

16 minutes ago, Eternally Gratefull said:

What makes a fossil, 

Depends on what the fossil is.   Sometimes, it's gradual replacement of the tissue with minerals over a very long time.   Sometimes it's just an impression in mud that gets buried and preserved as it hardens into rock.   Sometimes, it's sap running from a plant.   Sometimes, it's sand that buries and organism, after which low levels of moisture over a very long time, mineralize it.  Sometimes, it's a tree in a flooded plain that is buried by silt over many years, a layer at a time. 

Or maybe other things.   Lots and lots of different kinds, formed in many different kinds of environments.

 

16 minutes ago, Eternally Gratefull said:

and what made them to be found where they are found all around the globe?

For almost all of them,that's where they formed.    But plate tectonics is a thing, and normally, they get moved over millions of years as the continental plate moves.

But you were going to show us your evidence for your earlier claim.   What do you have?

 

Edited March 21, 2021 by The Barbarian

[The Barbarian]

1 hour ago, Walter Goraj jr said:

Have a fact: a fossilized   "dinosaur bird" was found in the process of incubating her babies in a nest. After reading several accounts,  the "smart people in the room" were absolutely silent on HOW it became fossilized. I am sincerely wondering if you could explain this. ( there were also other accounts of this same phenomenon in other parts of the world as well).

Got a link to the fossil?   How that might be fossilized depend on the environment.   What do you have?

Link us to the other accounts as well.   Not that I don't believe you, but there have been a lot of stories told, and then when I've checked, no evidence whatever.

Let's look at your links.

 

 

 

[Sparks]

20 hours ago, The Barbarian said:

Turns out, argon/argon testing dated the flow that buried Pompeii quite precisely.  So we know it works.

https://www.berkeley.edu/news/media/releases/97legacy/pompeii.html

I see they wrote an article, but that does not make it so.  Berkley has some super smart people wandering around (especially in musical theory), but I would want to see a formula for date/time conversion from argon half-life before I believed it.  I would like to see it applied to other things, of known age, too.  That article was from 1997.

If you Google Retraction Watch, you can see the scientists are often huge liars as their White Papers have to be retracted for their lies.  The papers that seem to have to be retracted most involve medicines, and you guessed it, evolution projects.

Since you have been reading this thread, would you like to take my candle challenge?  Or would you at least like to acknowledge that there is no way to tell how long the candle had been burning, in my challenge? 

[Eternally Gratefull]

10 hours ago, The Barbarian said:

Depends on what the fossil is.   Sometimes, it's gradual replacement of the tissue with minerals over a very long time.   Sometimes it's just an impression in mud that gets buried and preserved as it hardens into rock.   Sometimes, it's sap running from a plant.   Sometimes, it's sand that buries and organism, after which low levels of moisture over a very long time, mineralize it.  Sometimes, it's a tree in a flooded plain that is buried by silt over many years, a layer at a time. 

Or maybe other things.   Lots and lots of different kinds, formed in many different kinds of environments.

 

For almost all of them,that's where they formed.    But plate tectonics is a thing, and normally, they get moved over millions of years as the continental plate moves.

But you were going to show us your evidence for your earlier claim.   What do you have?

 

Fossils are not formed over long periods, nice try

 

if this is your evidence against a flood, I am not buying,  thank you for your time

[The Barbarian]

1 hour ago, Eternally Gratefull said:

Fossils are not formed over long periods, nice try

I know you want to believe that, but the evidence clearly shows it to be true.  

And you were going to show us your evidence.   Let's see what you've got.

 

[The Barbarian]

Turns out, argon/argon testing dated the flow that buried Pompeii quite precisely.  So we know it works.

https://www.berkeley.edu/news/media/releases/97legacy/pompeii.html

2 hours ago, Sparks said:

I see they wrote an article, but that does not make it so. 

Actually doing it, made it so.

Randy Showstack

First published: 03 June 2011

https://doi.org/10.1029/EO078i036p00382-02

Abstract

Roman historian Pliny the Younger noted that Mount Vesuvius blew its top and destroyed Pompeii in the early afternoon of August 24, 1,918 years ago. Now, a team of scientists, tempted by the certainty of that record, has confirmed the eruption to within 7 years. The team developed and used an improved radioactive argon‐argon dating technique, which they say can reliably establish the age of rocks as old as the solar system or as recent as 1,000 years old.

“We nailed the date to 5% on our first attempt, so we could probably get the error down to 1% or less,” says Paul Renne, adjunct associate professor of geology and geophysics at the University of California at Berkeley and director of the private Berkeley Geochronology Center. “Dating things that are really young has always been the Holy Grail of potassium‐argon [an earlier method] and argonargon dating.”

This was originally published in Science.    No point in denying the fact.

[The Barbarian]

2 hours ago, Sparks said:

Since you have been reading this thread, would you like to take my candle challenge?  Or would you at least like to acknowledge that there is no way to tell how long the candle had been burning, in my challenge? 

As you have now learned, radioisotope dating has been demonstrated to be accurate. Candle burning, maybe not so much. 

Go figure.