Are Fossils evidence of evolution ....or are the evidence of fossils

[The Barbarian]

7 hours ago, Riverwalker said:

You are assuming it is the mechanism of evolution.

By definition.   That's what evolution is.

7 hours ago, Riverwalker said:

By stating evolution to be a fact when naturally occurring speciation has NEVER* been observed. Is putting the cart before the horse.

Even many creationists admit the fact of speciation:

"Before the time of Charles Darwin, a false idea had crept into the church—the belief in the “fixity” or “immutability” of species. According to this view, each species was created in precisely the same form that we find it today. The Bible nowhere teaches that species are fixed and unchanging."

https://answersingenesis.org/natural-selection/speciation/

7 hours ago, Riverwalker said:

You have t9o FIRST prove evolution before you use it as a measuring stick

Directly observed.   Perhaps you don't know what biological evolution is.  What do you think it is?

 

[JohnR7]

21 hours ago, Sparks said:

It's a Biblical one.  God made them after the flood, as you can see.

There are two floods. Noah's flood and the world wide flood that took place at Pangea. One is an type or archetype of the other. We find abundant dinosaur remains in flood deposits in the rocky mountains all the way from New Mexico at the Ghosts Ranch to Montana. 

[JohnR7]

On 4/17/2021 at 7:56 PM, Sparks said:

Perhaps if you see it in a different context?

The question is: what is the meaning of the perfect day for us in our day and age? We know God is doing a work in our life today to prepare us for the perfect day that is in our future. 

[JohnR7]

On 4/16/2021 at 11:09 AM, kingdombrat said:

And the Torah provides more [Clarity] than the Translation from Latin Vulgate to English within the KJV.

God confused the Hebrew Language at the Tower of Babel. That is why we have Latin and English today. 

[JohnR7]

9 hours ago, Riverwalker said:

10 hours ago, BeyondET said:

 

You really think we need a calendar or a watch to keep track of time. Wow.

Most of us manage with a cell phone to keep track of time. My wife likes to use Alexa to wake her up in the morning. Still our 24 hour day is based on the rotation of the earth. Our year is based on the orbit of the earth around the sun. I think there is a day coming that will be exactly 24 hours and a year will be exactly 360 days. 

[Sparks]

On 4/19/2021 at 8:48 PM, JohnR7 said:

There are two floods. Noah's flood and the world wide flood that took place at Pangea. One is an type or archetype of the other. We find abundant dinosaur remains in flood deposits in the rocky mountains all the way from New Mexico at the Ghosts Ranch to Montana. 

I guess you need only produce evidence for Pangea and a flood prior to Noah's flood, then.  As I have suggested to others, a time machine would work best. 

Without a time machine, you won't be able to back your claims.

[Sparks]

On 4/19/2021 at 8:52 PM, JohnR7 said:

The question is: what is the meaning of the perfect day for us in our day and age? We know God is doing a work in our life today to prepare us for the perfect day that is in our future. 

I am not following.  Sorry. 

[Riverwalker]

On 4/19/2021 at 2:31 PM, The Barbarian said:

By definition.   That's what evolution is.

you can't even prove evolution is real

You have never once observed an act of speciation

and natural selection and adaptation of species that remains that species is NOT evolution

[Guest kingdombrat]

On 4/19/2021 at 6:42 AM, The Barbarian said:

Not possible.  If Noah was 1/4 the present size of humans, he would not have had the strength to build an Ark.   Things like sawing and hammering would have been out of reach for him.

And maybe that is why the Ark took years to build.

[Guest kingdombrat]

On 4/19/2021 at 3:26 PM, The Barbarian said:

I can merely show that all the evidence supports that conclusion, that we can observe it happening now, and since Genesis does not deny evolution, it's pretty easy to figure out.

Just like I can show how the word FORMS/MADE can relate better to Machine shop Methods of Form Molds.   And by the way, FORM/MADE are found in the Bible as God using Mathematics.   I am much closer to explaining Creation than Evolution could ever dream to be.

On 4/19/2021 at 3:26 PM, The Barbarian said:

You assume creationism because man's revision of scripture declares it so.

I use the Hebrew Texts, so I have a solid viewpoint of what God claims.

On 4/19/2021 at 3:26 PM, The Barbarian said:

God's creation, vs. man's creationist revision of scripture pretty much settles it.

Which is why the use of the Torah is a must.

On 4/19/2021 at 3:26 PM, The Barbarian said:

None of that is scriptural; it's all modern invention of man.   And science does not say a meteorite kicked off any ice age.

We see God using the Earth's Soil, then forming it into molds that would look like each Species and then we read God BREATHED into the FORM and it became life.

 

I don't care how you twist it, for being written 5,000 years ago, that explanation of Creation is the same LINGO as Machine Shop/Scientific Mathematics 101!   

 

[ok then, related to an asteroid:]

An ice age that occurred on Earth 466 million years ago may have been triggered by dust sent floating into the atmosphere by a giant asteroid collision in outer space, a study by researchers based in Sweden and the US suggests.Sep 21, 2019