Are Fossils evidence of evolution ....or are the evidence of fossils

[Guest kingdombrat]

From Cody's Journal:

 

“While we were in the hills scouting the Niobrara country, the Pawnees brought in some very large bones, one of which the surgeon of the expedition (it was a college funded expedition for fossils) said was the thigh bone of a human being. The Indians said the bones were those of a race of people who long ago had lived in that country…These giants, they said, denied the existence of the Great Spirit. When they heard thunder or lightening they laughed and declared themselves to be greater than either.

This so displeased the Great Spirit that he caused a deluge. The water rose higher and higher till it drove these proud giants from the low lands to the hills and thence to the mountains. At last even the mountain tops were submerged and the mammoth men were drowned…This story has been handed down among the Pawnees for generations.”

All the American tribes had a flood story and they often varied greatly in the details, but never in the main point. Some matched the Bible story very closely others less so, but this if the first time I had ever read the Pawnee account. And right from the mouth of Buffalo Bill Cody.  Cody had the highest respect for the Pawnee and said they were the best scouts he ever served with.

[Guest kingdombrat]

1 minute ago, The Barbarian said:

The "Cardiff Giant", for example was just low-tech fakery.   It's notable that any unresolved claims about giant skeletons always include the out that the skeleton has been "lost."

The Smithsonian is funded by the Free Masons.  If it's true the 37th degree/level is where the Rothchilds and Satan convene, and they are the financial backing of the Smithsonian, it seems [reasonable] Satan would order the destruction of these bones.   The bones prove his [Fallen Angel] existence.

[Guest kingdombrat]

5 minutes ago, kingdombrat said:

From Cody's Journal:

 

“While we were in the hills scouting the Niobrara country, the Pawnees brought in some very large bones, one of which the surgeon of the expedition (it was a college funded expedition for fossils) said was the thigh bone of a human being. The Indians said the bones were those of a race of people who long ago had lived in that country…These giants, they said, denied the existence of the Great Spirit. When they heard thunder or lightening they laughed and declared themselves to be greater than either.

This so displeased the Great Spirit that he caused a deluge. The water rose higher and higher till it drove these proud giants from the low lands to the hills and thence to the mountains. At last even the mountain tops were submerged and the mammoth men were drowned…This story has been handed down among the Pawnees for generations.”

All the American tribes had a flood story and they often varied greatly in the details, but never in the main point. Some matched the Bible story very closely others less so, but this if the first time I had ever read the Pawnee account. And right from the mouth of Buffalo Bill Cody.  Cody had the highest respect for the Pawnee and said they were the best scouts he ever served with.

DO WE THINK CODY IS LYING ABOUT THE [ GIANT HUMAN BONES] HE WRITES ABOUT CLAIMING TO SEE?

[The Barbarian]

The stories of cannibalistic giants derives from the wendigo stories of Algonquin-speaking tribes.    Turns out, there's a physiological cause for "wendigo psychosis":

https://www.jstor.org/stable/670759?seq=1

 

[Guest kingdombrat]

2 minutes ago, The Barbarian said:

The stories of cannibalistic giants derives from the wendigo stories of Algonquin-speaking tribes.    Turns out, there's a physiological cause for "wendigo psychosis":

https://www.jstor.org/stable/670759?seq=1

 

So, is Cody suffering himself when he verifies the existence of these Giant human bones?

[Guest kingdombrat]

They're on an expedition looking for fossils.

Then the Natives show up and show them these BONES.

Is Cody and the Medical Examiner [who made the claim these bones are human] all suffering?

Edited April 24, 2021 by kingdombrat

[The Barbarian]

1 minute ago, kingdombrat said:

DO WE THINK CODY IS LYING ABOUT THE [ GIANT HUMAN BONES] HE WRITES ABOUT CLAIMING TO SEE?

Did "Buffalo Bill" ever stretch the truth?  

"Cody was a boastful man who “continually leveraged events of his life to make himself more marketable,” according to Louis Warren, a leading historian of the Wild West Show.  When he took the stage in the character of “Buffalo Bill,” the former frontiersman played a version of himself, much as hosts of reality TV shows do now.  He was certainly a man of his time, but the way he blurred the line between real life and fabrication raises questions about truth and artifice that resonate eerily..."

https://blog.lareviewofbooks.org/provocations/buffalo-bill-truth-bending-showman-times/

On December 23, 1869 the media-driven mythification of Cody to Buffalo Bill began with the publication of the serialized story Buffalo Bill, the King of the Border Men in Street & Smith’s New York Weekly. Its author was the popular romance writer Ned Buntline (nee Edward Zane Carroll Judson) who had met Cody earlier in Fort McPherson, Nebraska. It would be the first of more than 1700 stories about Buffalo Bill. Although newspaper stories credit Buntline with the great majority, it was Colonel Prentiss Ingraham who wrote the most Cody novels between 1882 and 1904. Ingraham staged a highly successful play about Buffalo Bill, called Knight of the Plains, or Buffalo Bill’s Best Trail for the tour of 1879. By 1884 he also served Cody as an advance agent for the Wild West Show. It is obvious that Ingraham’s Buffalo Bill stories served dual purposes of providing entertainment that fueled the imagination and of advertising and promoting Cody’s Wild West show.

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By the end of the first week of the new year, a death watch began for Cody. On January 10, 1917 Cody died of uremic poisoning due to kidney failure in Denver, Colorado. Pawnee Bill, a man that perhaps knew Cody the man as well as anyone could, wrote, “Time smoothes everything. Buffalo Bill died my friend. He was just an irresponsible boy.”

https://nationalcowboymuseum.org/explore/buffalo-bill-man-myth-media/

[debrakay]

17 hours ago, The Barbarian said:

What it doesn't have is a structure that could last a year at sea.   Wouldn't be enough people aboard to bail it out.   Any wooden vessel that large, will flex and leak.   Wooden ships much smaller than that structure were constantly leaking and had full-time steam pumps to remove the water.

My thought: A manmade vessel, filled with tons of animals would not make it through a worldwide flood.  Only a vessel made by and through the hands of God Almighty would survive and it did.  One time, a long time ago.

[The Barbarian]

5 minutes ago, kingdombrat said:

They're on an expedition looking for fossils.

Then the Natives show up and show them these BONES.

Is Cody and the Medical Examiner [who made the claim these bones are human] all suffering?

Comes down to evidence.   It would be incredible if a real "medical examiner" found such bones, and declined to even take a sample.   What did he bring back, if not merely a story?

 

[Guest kingdombrat]

1 minute ago, The Barbarian said:

Did "Buffalo Bill" ever stretch the truth?  

"Cody was a boastful man who “continually leveraged events of his life to make himself more marketable,” according to Louis Warren, a leading historian of the Wild West Show.  When he took the stage in the character of “Buffalo Bill,” the former frontiersman played a version of himself, much as hosts of reality TV shows do now.  He was certainly a man of his time, but the way he blurred the line between real life and fabrication raises questions about truth and artifice that resonate eerily..."

https://blog.lareviewofbooks.org/provocations/buffalo-bill-truth-bending-showman-times/

On December 23, 1869 the media-driven mythification of Cody to Buffalo Bill began with the publication of the serialized story Buffalo Bill, the King of the Border Men in Street & Smith’s New York Weekly. Its author was the popular romance writer Ned Buntline (nee Edward Zane Carroll Judson) who had met Cody earlier in Fort McPherson, Nebraska. It would be the first of more than 1700 stories about Buffalo Bill. Although newspaper stories credit Buntline with the great majority, it was Colonel Prentiss Ingraham who wrote the most Cody novels between 1882 and 1904. Ingraham staged a highly successful play about Buffalo Bill, called Knight of the Plains, or Buffalo Bill’s Best Trail for the tour of 1879. By 1884 he also served Cody as an advance agent for the Wild West Show. It is obvious that Ingraham’s Buffalo Bill stories served dual purposes of providing entertainment that fueled the imagination and of advertising and promoting Cody’s Wild West show.

...

By the end of the first week of the new year, a death watch began for Cody. On January 10, 1917 Cody died of uremic poisoning due to kidney failure in Denver, Colorado. Pawnee Bill, a man that perhaps knew Cody the man as well as anyone could, wrote, “Time smoothes everything. Buffalo Bill died my friend. He was just an irresponsible boy.”

https://nationalcowboymuseum.org/explore/buffalo-bill-man-myth-media/

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