Applying Ocaam's Razor to the Creation/Evolution Discussion

[The Barbarian]

5 hours ago, BeyondET said:

but how a human is formed is quite similar to what would be called evolutionary processes in the womb, a tad pole like type of creature thst swims to find a egg shell of liquid and from the you are formed. 

Once the saying was "ontogeny recapitulates phylogeny."   (embryonic development follows evolutionary changes)   This was never the majority view of development.   In fact, we don't become fish, amphibians, and reptiles in turn in utero.   It may appear so, but for example, branchial arches never become gills; they develop in different was to became jaws, middle ear structures and so on.  

It only appears so, because our embyronic development is constrained by what happened before.

 

[BeyondET]

4 minutes ago, Riverwalker said:

Hmm pretty sure that is not evolution you speak of

Ev·o·lu·tion

/ˌevəˈlo͞oSH(ə)n/

noun

1.the process by which different kinds of living organisms are thought to have developed and diversified from earlier forms during the history of the earth.

Nonetheless, the process of a tadpole type organism swimming up a human passage way, squeezing into a human egg, and that forms a human, which was the third human process on earth, the first was from dirt, the second from bone. is quite peculiar. If we are to say no humanoids other than Adam, Eve, and their first born

most all embryos at the first month of living rather human or animal are almost identical, a month old human baby doesn't even have arms and legs nodes, just a head and a tail. there’s something more than anybody can understand going on.

people who dabble in the evolutionary theory can’t even understand why male horses and mice have no nipples. Maybe the horse and rat is a superior example of a pure male, humans don’t have that luxury hehe.. I’m just saying there are some bazaar things in nature,

me personally can’t rule out some kind of evolve process wasn’t used when all I’m given in the Bible is dust to life nothing in between and we all know hopefully there was a process from dust to life, to say God created man instantly fully formed is a theory in its self for Bible doesn’t speak on how God exactly created man from dust or that it was done in a matter of seconds.

[The Barbarian]

On 3/8/2021 at 6:51 AM, Starise said:

Yes possibly you could explain "evolved" in detail to me.

Changes in allele frequency in a population.  

On 3/8/2021 at 6:51 AM, Starise said:

The term evolved is an escape phrase for anything the science community does not really understand and their whole theory rests on it.

No.  For example, we know in detail how our ears and jaws evolved from rather different reptilian ears and jaws. 

On 3/8/2021 at 6:51 AM, Starise said:

I don't want the most common unscientific answer, that somehow through millions of years species just "changed".

That's not how the theory works.   Above are some details on how mammalian ears and jaws evolved from those of therapsid reptiles.  I can give you more detail, if you'd like.   Or would you like me to show you something else?

 

[BeyondET]

Hmm bone, placed in a garden (LCE) unknown.

 

Edited March 17, 2021 by BeyondET

[Guest kingdombrat]

On 3/17/2021 at 12:11 AM, BeyondET said:

Hmm bone, placed in a garden (LCE) unknown.

 

It's no shock to me to find a multitude of Species having similar and like bone structures.   After all, we have concrete evidence from God ALL THINGS were made the SAME WAY!  

 

7And the Lord God formed man of dust from the ground

 

19And the Lord God formed from the earth every beast of the field and every fowl of the heavens

 

15Behold now the behemoth that I have made with you

 

 

 

 

 Everything is [FORMED FROM THE GROUND/DUST/EARTH] and since Scripture shows we're ALL formed roughly the SAME DAY, no doubt ALL of our Bone Structure would be very similar from Species to Species.

[The Barbarian]

9 minutes ago, kingdombrat said:

It's no shock to me to find a multitude of Species having similar and like bone structures.   After all, we have concrete evidence from God ALL THINGS were made the SAME WAY!  

The "shock" is to find that widely diverse things are made of the same components as though they were descended from one another, rather than designed.   Homologies said "common descent."

 

 

[Guest kingdombrat]

4 minutes ago, The Barbarian said:

The "shock" is to find that widely diverse things are made of the same components as though they were descended from one another, rather than designed.   Homologies said "common descent."

And that is [Confusion] which God is not about.

 

God said, He created all Life from the Earth and Formed it [ALL] around the same time.

 

Think of a Machine Shop with Molds.

 

God basically, in my Opinion, had a Similar FORM/MOLD for Bone Structure and created ALL Species from that same Structure.

 

Now, if God claims to FORM LIFE basically around the [SAME TIME], [ALL Species] He would explain from One animal came Forth new animals.   But He does not say that, HE SAYS, I made Behemoth {{with MAN}} not from or vice versa.  However though, we can see God used a Pattern like the Universe [Our Galaxy is Patterned/Formed like other Galaxies which is how we know there's more than just our Galaxy].   God did [SAME THING] here with Bone Structure.

 

From His Own Design of the Bone Structure, He Formed every Species, just like we read!

 

From 1 Design God made every Galaxy in the same like Pattern [Galileo points this out].

And we have PROOF, from 1 Bone Structure God made all Species. 

Even Adam said about Eve [Flesh of my flesh and Bone of my bone][meaning Adam did not "evolve" and neither did Eve!

[Guest kingdombrat]

Adam himself gives us the [Ultimate Evidence] there was/is NO Species becoming NEW Species.

 

He said, about Eve, [Flesh of my flesh and Bone of my bone][meaning Adam did not "evolve" and neither did Eve!

 

If Adam came from the Ape, He would have said about Eve, [Flesh of our ancestors and bone of our ancestors].

 

NO, he said, [Flesh of my flesh and Bone of my bone][meaning Adam did not "evolve" and neither did Eve!

 

 

[Guest kingdombrat]

3 minutes ago, kingdombrat said:

Adam himself gives us the [Ultimate Evidence] there was/is NO Species becoming NEW Species.

 

He said, about Eve, [Flesh of my flesh and Bone of my bone][meaning Adam did not "evolve" and neither did Eve!

And clearly Adam saw Elk giving birth to Elk, Bear to Bear, Lion to Lion and why He claimed, MY FLESH AND MY BONE!

 

That proves no evolving ever!

 

Adam saw each Species was its own Species and not becoming something more.

Adam took Possession of Eve!

 

Adam proves Evolution is an outright LIE!

Edited April 22, 2021 by kingdombrat

[The Barbarian]

4 hours ago, kingdombrat said:

Think of a Machine Shop with Molds.

That is man's way, not God's way.    He created a world where everything appeared according to His will from the initial creation.

4 hours ago, kingdombrat said:

God basically, in my Opinion, had a Similar FORM/MOLD for Bone Structure and created ALL Species from that same Structure.

No.  He had a common genetic heritage for animals, from which all species were (and are being) created according to His will.  Hence, we "looks like" isn't the demonstration of His creation.  It's how common structures with the same genes, are modified to new uses within the rules that He created for this world.

4 hours ago, kingdombrat said:

From 1 Design God made every Galaxy in the same like Pattern [Galileo points this out].

But they don't all look alike.  They vary a lot.  Yet, they all form according to his laws, for which no design was required.   Everything works according to gravity and momentum.   From such simple rules, He made a universe as complex and amazing as this one.   

Why didn't any other god think of that?    Because there's only One God.   And he's way more powerful and wise than any god man might think up.

https://astrobackyard.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/types-of-galaxies-2.jpg