JohnD Posted April 4, 2021 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 0 Topic Count: 905 Topics Per Day: 0.19 Content Count: 9,646 Content Per Day: 2.02 Reputation: 5,832 Days Won: 9 Joined: 04/07/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted April 4, 2021 On 3/30/2021 at 12:07 PM, 1to3 said: If God exists what was the reason for Christ Jesus to come on earth and die on the cross? Why did he have to die? how do you explain to someone who asks you this? Since God exists... (never grant the IF premise) Why wouldn't God send the solution to human sin (to rescue those who believe) from an eternal damnation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD Posted April 4, 2021 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 0 Topic Count: 905 Topics Per Day: 0.19 Content Count: 9,646 Content Per Day: 2.02 Reputation: 5,832 Days Won: 9 Joined: 04/07/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted April 4, 2021 On 3/30/2021 at 12:07 PM, 1to3 said: If God exists what was the reason for Christ Jesus to come on earth and die on the cross? Why did he have to die? how do you explain to someone who asks you this? Secondly, if I determine the inquisitor is genuinely seeking answers, I would say... Jesus. in his Divine preincarnate state, created all things created in the beginning (John 1:2 / Colossians 1:16 / Hebrews 1:2) which Isaiah 44:24 states twice that only he did. When the spiritual beings he created fell into sin, since they were already in their permanent state, could not be redeemed from damnation. To prove he (Jesus) is more than fair more than just, he created the physical realm and peopled it with humans who can die physically in order to redeem those who believe him. There is no doubt in my mind he warned the spirit beings about sin and damnation... and they chose not to believe and sinned anyway. I believe this because God is more than just more than fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1to3 Posted April 4, 2021 Group: Royal Member Followers: 22 Topic Count: 139 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 4,226 Content Per Day: 1.23 Reputation: 3,075 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/28/2014 Status: Online Author Share Posted April 4, 2021 1 hour ago, JohnD said: When the spiritual beings he created fell into sin, since they were already in their permanent state, could not be redeemed from damnation. To prove he (Jesus) is more than fair more than just, he created the physical realm and peopled it with humans who can die physically in order to redeem those who believe him. your statement implies that satan came into sin before God finished His Creation. Do you have scripture form the bible to back this up? This does not agree with Bible scripture that states that God created EVERYTHING within 6 days, and It was GOOD=sin free, On the seventh Day God rested. Genesis ch1 31 Then God saw everything that He had made, and indeed it was very good. So the evening and the morning were the sixth day. From a Bible scriptural standpoint, it appears that sin was found in satan after the seventh day and sometime after Adam was created. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Hartono Posted April 5, 2021 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 771 Topics Per Day: 0.34 Content Count: 6,938 Content Per Day: 3.06 Reputation: 1,979 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/15/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted April 5, 2021 On 3/31/2021 at 1:09 AM, 1to3 said: They understand that god exist but why Christ Jesus?What was the reason for him coming to earth? Can you explain that to someone sincerely asking? Dont be afraid if somebody ask u that question, just bomb them with John 3:16, its the job of Holy Spirit to open the heart, our duty is to spread love n Gospel according to each talent, some preach, some pray, some visiting church members in need, some sings, some do social work etc. Let your light shine that people may see your good deed n glorify God in heaven. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billiards Ball Posted April 8, 2021 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 5 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,502 Content Per Day: 0.66 Reputation: 662 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/05/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted April 8, 2021 On 3/30/2021 at 1:07 PM, 1to3 said: If God exists what was the reason for Christ Jesus to come on earth and die on the cross? Why did he have to die? how do you explain to someone who asks you this? No one is perfect and only perfect people can live in a utopia, so God was born on Earth, perfect, to die and rise to switch places with us/pay for our sin. Trust Jesus today for eternal life, He will perfect you at the Rapture so you can enter Heaven. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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