What does a spiritual battle look like?

[Whyme]

17 minutes ago, PeterR said:

That's exactly how I thought you understood it.
I don't know why it is erroneously called a spiritual battle but it is very common.

If I can advise you, radical action is more effective.

These are so called the first conditions of success:

Heb 12:1  Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us

Rom 13:11-12  And that, knowing the time, that now it is high time to awake out of sleep: for now is our salvation nearer than when we believed. The night is far spent, the day is at hand: let us therefore cast off the works of darkness, and let us put on the armour of light.

 

G659 - apotithēmi - From G575 and G5087; to put away (literally or figuratively): - cast off, lay apart (aside, down), put away (off).

 

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I don't know why it is erroneously called a spiritual battle but it is very common.

There are many scriptures that refer to either spiritual warfare or how the flesh and Spirit are against each other. Its a battle and a spiritual one. When we say spiritual we mean a battle in our own spirit, or may also refer to Gods Spirit, or spiritual forces of darkness. Maybe you are thinking of new age spiritualism? 

[PeterR]

26 minutes ago, Whyme said:

I didnt think it sounded new age. What you say sounds confusing though. Please elaborate, thank you.

This is what I saw at first glance and asked for an explanation.

[PeterR]

5 minutes ago, Whyme said:

There are many scriptures that refer to either spiritual warfare or how the flesh and Spirit are against each other. Its a battle and a spiritual one. When we say spiritual we mean a battle in our own spirit, or may also refer to Gods Spirit, or spiritual forces of darkness. Maybe you are thinking of new age spiritualism? 

I am simply alert to every attempt of someone to add anything to the cross, such as our efforts. Those who become infected with New Age doctrines believe that all go to heaven who have tried to be "good" people on earth.

Please provide the verses you think about and we will reflect on them together.

[Whyme]

9 minutes ago, PeterR said:

I am simply alert to every attempt of someone to add anything to the cross, such as our efforts. Those who become infected with New Age doctrines believe that all go to heaven who have tried to be "good" people on earth.

Please provide the verses you think about and we will reflect on them together.

I dont think anyone here is preaching that. Its my hope that everyone will go to heaven, but not because they are a good person. I know this is argumentative. Its not in the bible, its just my hope.

[Whyme]

20 minutes ago, PeterR said:

I am simply alert to every attempt of someone to add anything to the cross, such as our efforts. Those who become infected with New Age doctrines believe that all go to heaven who have tried to be "good" people on earth.

Please provide the verses you think about and we will reflect on them together.

What is wrong with effort? Surely only Jesus saves us, but our efforts are to be in doing good and overcoming evil. Ageed?

[Sister]

On 5/1/2021 at 9:45 PM, PeterR said:

Hi Sister,
It sounds a bit like New Age teaching to me. Is our real battle as Christians is with our own human nature?

Jas 4: 1-3 From whence come wars and fightings among you? come they not hence, even of your lusts that war in your members?
Ye lust, and have not: ye kill, and desire to have, and cannot obtain: ye fight and war, yet ye have not, because ye ask not.
Ye ask, and receive not, because ye ask amiss, that ye may consume it upon your lusts.

G3196 - melos
Of uncertain affinity; a limb or part of the body: - member.

Rom 7:23-24  But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members. O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death? 

It follows from the above verses that the source of all of our battles is rooted in our conflict with God.

Could you explain please?

Hello PeterR

I don't know what new age teaching is but I know what truth is. 

  2 Corinthians 6:17   Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,

What is unclean?  Everything that we are commandment not to do. Everything that Jesus hates.  Self control required.  Say no.  Not a new age teaching but a simple commandment.

[PeterR]

4 hours ago, Sister said:

Hello PeterR

I don't know what new age teaching is but I know what truth is. 

  2 Corinthians 6:17   Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,

What is unclean?  Everything that we are commandment not to do. Everything that Jesus hates.  Self control required.  Say no.  Not a new age teaching but a simple commandment.

Hello Sister
As I asked @Whyme, I am asking you to provide Scripture as proof of your understanding. What is the truth you believe in? What is unclean for Christians? What are we not to do? What does Jesus hate? What commandment do we have?

Edited May 3, 2021 by PeterR

[PeterR]

On 5/1/2021 at 8:29 PM, PeterR said:

On 5/1/2021 at 8:18 PM, Whyme said:

There are many scriptures that refer to either spiritual warfare or how the flesh and Spirit are against each other. Its a battle and a spiritual one. When we say spiritual we mean a battle in our own spirit, or may also refer to Gods Spirit, or spiritual forces of darkness. Maybe you are thinking of new age spiritualism? 

I am simply alert to every attempt of someone to add anything to the cross, such as our efforts. Those who become infected with New Age doctrines believe that all go to heaven who have tried to be "good" people on earth.

Please provide the verses you think about and we will reflect on them together.

BUMP!

I wonder if you have already found the scriptures to support your claims?

Edited May 3, 2021 by PeterR

[Whyme]

9 hours ago, PeterR said:

Hello Sister
As I asked @Whyme, I am asking you to provide Scripture as proof of your understanding. What is the truth you believe in? What is unclean for Christians? What are we not to do? What does Jesus hate? What commandment do we have?

What is unclean? The flesh. Just a couple scriptures off hand concerning the Lords commandments.

Galatians 4-5

1 Thessalonians 4:1-7. 

2 Corinthians 6-7,

1 Co 13,

Ephesians 4-5,

Matthew 5-7, 

and Colossians 3.

 

 

Edited May 3, 2021 by Whyme

[PeterR]

10 minutes ago, Whyme said:

What is unclean? The flesh. Just a couple scriptures off hand concerning the Lords commandments.

Galatians 4-5

1 Thessalonians 4:1-7. 

2 Corinthians 6-7,

1 Co 13,

Ephesians 4-5,

Matthew 5-7, 

and Colossians 3.

 

 

These weren't questions for you :-)