Sucker punches.

[David1701]

22 hours ago, TCC said:

It also aligns with their Catholic roots. The reformers brought with them the dark ages Catholic belief of amillennialism. But dispensationalism did come from the reformers. You might have asked how so. But even still, here is an interesting article that seems to be helpful in making some of those connections. Blessings. 

The Calvinistic Heritage of Dispensationalism (liberty.edu)

 

Dispensationalism does not agree with the Reformers' almost unanimous acknowledgment that the Pope is the anti-Christ, and that Romanism is the Whore of Babylon.

Dispensationalism finds its roots in Romanism, because, in order to counter the Reformation's return to the word of God, two false teachings were invented: a) full Preterism and b) extreme Futurism (this one is the Mother of Dispensationalism) - both invented by Jesuits, as part of the counter-Reformation, to take people's eyes off the present (with so-called "Pope" as anti-Christ) and place them in the past or the future (I'm sure they don't care which).

Edited August 18, 2021 by David1701

[TCC]

2 hours ago, David1701 said:

Dispensationalism does not agree with the Reformers' almost unanimous acknowledgment that the Pope is the anti-Christ, and that Romanism is the Whore of Babylon.

Dispensationalism finds its roots in Romanism, because, in order to counter the Reformation's return to the word of God, two false teachings were invented: a) full Preterism and b) extreme Futurism (this one is the Mother of Dispensationalism) - both invented by Jesuits, as part of the counter-Reformation, to take people's eyes off the present (with so-called "Pope" as anti-Christ) and place them in the past or the future (I'm sure they don't care which).

Understandable. But early church fathers did have some nuances of futurism. To think that is new, based on the Catholic church ruling the dark ages for over a century, to me, is suggesting that Rome had it right for over 1,000 years. You are saying Rome's theology of Amillennialism is not a doctrine of Rome? Unfortunately, that is where that sort of thinking lands you. Siding with Rome regardless. How would you explain Ezekiel 38 unfolding in the middle east? 

Edited August 18, 2021 by TCC

[Justin Adams]

On 8/16/2021 at 9:46 PM, David1701 said:

The Reformers, almost to a man, knew that the office of Pope is the anti-Christ (Daniel's little horn) and that Romanism is the Whore of Babylon.  This aligns best with amillenialism and categorically NOT with dispensationalism.

Yeah. I keep reading posts about 'the' anti-Christ. This means REPLACEMENT Christ or the Vicar of Christ - aka the papacy.

There is no seven year anything as it happened about 2k years ago.

There is no mark of the beast that is new.

Daniel's 70th weeks has been over since the first century along with mostly all of Revelation.

Har-mo eade or 'Armageddon' has nothing to so with Megiddo. Har means mount. The mount of assembly = ZION.

The old covenant went out with a bang of God's destruction (check out the vineyard account). The Creator flattened Jerusalem and the believers escaped to Pella. This is also ancient history.

Do not be misdirected about 'prophet speak' and flowery hyperbole. See it for what it is and what in the past was described.

There is no pre-mil anything. It is all smoke and mirrors from Darby, Scofield, Lindsay and Lahaye; of course TV and DTS programming is promoting this error continually.

We Believers work today with our Risen Savior who is seated at the Right hand of all Authority. To say otherwise is false.

 

 

 

 

[David1701]

5 minutes ago, Justin Adams said:

Yeah. I keep reading posts about 'the' anti-Christ. This means REPLACEMENT Christ or the Vicar of Christ - aka the papacy.

There is no seven year anything as it happened about 2k years ago.

There is no mark of the beast that is new.

Daniel's 70th weeks has been over since the first century along with mostly all of Revelation.

Har-mo eade or 'Armageddon' has nothing to so with Megiddo. Har means mount. The mount of assembly = ZION.

The old covenant went out with a bang of God's destruction (check out the vineyard account). The Creator flattened Jerusalem and the believers escaped to Pella. This is also ancient history.

Do not be misdirected about 'prophet speak' and flowery hyperbole. See it for what it is and what in the past was described.

There is no pre-mil anything. It is all smoke and mirrors from Darby, Scofield, Lindsay and Lahaye; of course TV and DTS programming is promoting this error continually.

We Believers work today with our Risen Savior who is seated at the Right hand of all Authority. To say otherwise is false.

 

 

 

 

Amen!