Who was this Man?

[Guest Zayit]

Mark 9:38

And John answered him, saying, Master, we saw one casting out devils in thy name, and he followeth not us: and we forbad him, because he followeth not us. 

9:39

But Jesus said, Forbid him not: for there is no man which shall do a miracle in my name, that can lightly speak evil of me. 

9:40

For he that is not against us is on our part. 

9:41

For whosoever shall give you a cup of water to drink in my name, because ye belong to Christ, verily I say unto you, he shall not lose his reward. 

Who do you think this man was?

[Sirsilius]

Mark 9:38

And John answered him, saying, Master, we saw one casting out devils in thy name, and he followeth not us: and we forbad him, because he followeth not us.

[Guest Zayit]

I don't think that they are speaking the same thing.

he followeth not us: and we forbad him

I have many questions about this, what did they mean by "he followed not us" does this mean that he wasn't in the group of followers of Yeshua, or that he did not follow the way they did things?

Why did they forbid him? And Yeshua did not? They apparently thought he was doing evil, but Yeshua said he could not have been.

When you look at this in the light of the scripture you posted it does draw more questions, especially if you factor in the WOF pastors.

Questions, bring more questions...............

[Guest Zayit]

Mark 9:38

And John answered him, saying, Master, we saw one casting out devils in thy name, and he followeth not us: and we forbad him, because he followeth not us.

[Sirsilius]

It's strange how those with Christ hadn't at that point, casted out demons and this man [whoever he was] was already doing it.

I looked at other Bible translations and it appears the reason the disciples "forbad him" was because he wasn't in Christ's group. But then Christ opposed them, saying- "forbid him not" indicating that he who isn't against us- is with us.

And I wonder- though he wasn't hanging around with the disciples, it "could be" that he was a follower of Christ none the less. Remember in the O.T. when one of the prophets thought he was the only follower of God left and God told him that there were at least 7000 [i'm guessing] more?

Well, maybe that man was a follower of Christ- but other than what the disciples reported, the scriptures are silent in regards to who he was?

Another thing that is interesting, is that some will cast out demons in His name, Yet Christ will deny them; proving that even people who are able to do this- as so many in the ministry claim- don't necessarily have their hearts right with God.

So back to this man- he was either casting out demons with a proper heart, or he wasn't. But I know- that still doesn't tell us very much does it?

[PwrInTheBld]

"And John answered him, saying, Master, we saw one casting out devils in thy name, and he followeth not us: and we forbad him, because he followeth not us." Mark 9:38

I think this shows more jealousy on the part of the Lord's disciples. There are plenty of times in scripture when jealousy popped up. If the good doesn't channel through our own hands and all groups aren't part of our own....we tend to make it our business to monitor and pass judgement on the works of others.

"But Jesus said, Forbid him not: for there is no man which shall do a miracle in my name, that can lightly speak evil of me. For he that is not against us is on our part." Mark 9:39,40

I don't think Jesus was telling His disciples "Forbid him not" because the man was on their side....he could very well have eventually proved to be an enemy of the Lord, who knows....but, I think Jesus told them "forbid him not" because He was telling the disciples, it's not up to them to pass judgement.

I still have no idea who the man was.

[Sirsilius]

PwrInTheBld Posted Today, 08:27 AM

I still have no idea who the man was.

I doubt we'll ever know who this man really was.

But- either he was a faithful follower of Christ, casting out demons in His name; or was casting out demons in His name- but wasn't a true follower, whom Christ will deny at the end as never knowing him.

I think that's about the only conclusion we can draw on this man.

[Leonard]

His name was Henry and he ran a little deli downtown Cana.

[Guest Zayit]

Was that supposed to be humorous Leonard? Does that mean you don't take this subject serioulsy or is it a way of despersion at my cost again?

Anyway , those interested, I just had a thought come to me, what if it were one of John's disciples? Many times they are overlooked.

Cuold he have been a Samaritan? That would account for the "he's not one of us", meaning Jews, not Yeshua's disciples.

[PwrInTheBld]

The man could have been anyone. My thought is that the Twelve hadn't really reached the concept that being a disciple meant more than being a member of the exclusive company of the Twelve.......and that's why "not one of us" was said.