Is belief in the Trinity essential to one's Salvat

[Snow4JC]

I would also like to say that for the most part, people here have been very kind and polite to me, even though I believe things differently then some.  I would just like to say thank you.     

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Your Welcome!

Snow4JC

[halifaxchristian]

Jesus said you must believe in His deity in order to be saved. But, nowhere is belief in the Trinity explicity demanded for salvation.

But, seeing as Jesus said you must believe He is God... and assuming that the person also believes that the Father is God... it stands to reason that they believe in the Trinity... unless they are Oneness.

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Hey T&O, long time no see... well is this considered seeing ... well I think you know what I mean .

I know I don't post here as much as I would like to, but I do read alot. For those who don't know, I am a "Oneness" Pentecostal. I do not believe in the Trinity. Does that mean I am not saved? Does that mean that I am not a christian? Does that mean my relationship with Jesus Christ, my Lord, is not a real relationship? What about a Trinitarian Pentecostal, are they saved just because they believe in the Trinity?

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Brother...If you are saved...you will come to confess the Triune God. God does not lie to believers about Who He is. I am not saying you aren't saved...perhaps you are misled or something...but if you are truly born again...the Holy Spirit will guide you into all truth.

You must have the right God, the right Jesus, to be saved. And this, I am sure you agree with. God bless.

[Trust & Obey]

Jesus said you must believe in His deity in order to be saved. But, nowhere is belief in the Trinity explicity demanded for salvation.

But, seeing as Jesus said you must believe He is God... and assuming that the person also believes that the Father is God... it stands to reason that they believe in the Trinity... unless they are Oneness.

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Hey T&O, long time no see... well is this considered seeing ... well I think you know what I mean .

I know I don't post here as much as I would like to, but I do read alot. For those who don't know, I am a "Oneness" Pentecostal. I do not believe in the Trinity. Does that mean I am not saved? Does that mean that I am not a christian? Does that mean my relationship with Jesus Christ, my Lord, is not a real relationship? What about a Trinitarian Pentecostal, are they saved just because they believe in the Trinity?

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Brother...If you are saved...you will come to confess the Triune God. God does not lie to believers about Who He is. I am not saying you aren't saved...perhaps you are misled or something...but if you are truly born again...the Holy Spirit will guide you into all truth.

You must have the right God, the right Jesus, to be saved. And this, I am sure you agree with. God bless.

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While that bears some truth, halifax, God doesn't expect us to get "all of the tenets of our faith" and "our doctrine impeccably correct" before He will bestow salvation on us. Salvation is a free gift of God's grace.

The thief on the cross was a great example. All the thief on the cross knew was that he needed saving and that Jesus could do it. That's all it took for him.

[halifaxchristian]

Jesus said you must believe in His deity in order to be saved. But, nowhere is belief in the Trinity explicity demanded for salvation.

But, seeing as Jesus said you must believe He is God... and assuming that the person also believes that the Father is God... it stands to reason that they believe in the Trinity... unless they are Oneness.

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Hey T&O, long time no see... well is this considered seeing ... well I think you know what I mean .

I know I don't post here as much as I would like to, but I do read alot. For those who don't know, I am a "Oneness" Pentecostal. I do not believe in the Trinity. Does that mean I am not saved? Does that mean that I am not a christian? Does that mean my relationship with Jesus Christ, my Lord, is not a real relationship? What about a Trinitarian Pentecostal, are they saved just because they believe in the Trinity?

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Brother...If you are saved...you will come to confess the Triune God. God does not lie to believers about Who He is. I am not saying you aren't saved...perhaps you are misled or something...but if you are truly born again...the Holy Spirit will guide you into all truth.

You must have the right God, the right Jesus, to be saved. And this, I am sure you agree with. God bless.

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While that bears some truth, halifax, God doesn't expect us to get "all of the tenets of our faith" and "our doctrine impeccably correct" before He will bestow salvation on us. Salvation is a free gift of God's grace.

The thief on the cross was a great example. All the thief on the cross knew was that he needed saving and that Jesus could do it. That's all it took for him.

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Agreed...but had the Theif lived to be 90 years old...I'm sure he would have confessed Yahweh as He is. Agreed???

[EricH]

Jesus said you must believe in His deity in order to be saved. But, nowhere is belief in the Trinity explicity demanded for salvation.

But, seeing as Jesus said you must believe He is God... and assuming that the person also believes that the Father is God... it stands to reason that they believe in the Trinity... unless they are Oneness.

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Hey T&O, long time no see... well is this considered seeing ... well I think you know what I mean .

I know I don't post here as much as I would like to, but I do read alot. For those who don't know, I am a "Oneness" Pentecostal. I do not believe in the Trinity. Does that mean I am not saved? Does that mean that I am not a christian? Does that mean my relationship with Jesus Christ, my Lord, is not a real relationship? What about a Trinitarian Pentecostal, are they saved just because they believe in the Trinity?

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Brother...If you are saved...you will come to confess the Triune God. God does not lie to believers about Who He is. I am not saying you aren't saved...perhaps you are misled or something...but if you are truly born again...the Holy Spirit will guide you into all truth.

You must have the right God, the right Jesus, to be saved. And this, I am sure you agree with. God bless.

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While that bears some truth, halifax, God doesn't expect us to get "all of the tenets of our faith" and "our doctrine impeccably correct" before He will bestow salvation on us. Salvation is a free gift of God's grace.

The thief on the cross was a great example. All the thief on the cross knew was that he needed saving and that Jesus could do it. That's all it took for him.

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Agreed...but had the Theif lived to be 90 years old...I'm sure he would have confessed Yahweh as He is. Agreed???

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Ageed, but that is part of the sanctification process of someone who is already saved.

[halifaxchristian]

We aren't strong enough for meat over night...

[Trust & Obey]

Jesus said you must believe in His deity in order to be saved. But, nowhere is belief in the Trinity explicity demanded for salvation.

But, seeing as Jesus said you must believe He is God... and assuming that the person also believes that the Father is God... it stands to reason that they believe in the Trinity... unless they are Oneness.

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Hey T&O, long time no see... well is this considered seeing ... well I think you know what I mean .

I know I don't post here as much as I would like to, but I do read alot. For those who don't know, I am a "Oneness" Pentecostal. I do not believe in the Trinity. Does that mean I am not saved? Does that mean that I am not a christian? Does that mean my relationship with Jesus Christ, my Lord, is not a real relationship? What about a Trinitarian Pentecostal, are they saved just because they believe in the Trinity?

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Brother...If you are saved...you will come to confess the Triune God. God does not lie to believers about Who He is. I am not saying you aren't saved...perhaps you are misled or something...but if you are truly born again...the Holy Spirit will guide you into all truth.

You must have the right God, the right Jesus, to be saved. And this, I am sure you agree with. God bless.

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While that bears some truth, halifax, God doesn't expect us to get "all of the tenets of our faith" and "our doctrine impeccably correct" before He will bestow salvation on us. Salvation is a free gift of God's grace.

The thief on the cross was a great example. All the thief on the cross knew was that he needed saving and that Jesus could do it. That's all it took for him.

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Agreed...but had the Theif lived to be 90 years old...I'm sure he would have confessed Yahweh as He is. Agreed???

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Possibly, but certainly not guaranteed.

I learned of the Trinity through study and teaching. My understanding of Scripture from my own study and research agrees with the doctrine of the Trinity. I have examined the Oneness ideology and it is seriously found lacking.

But, someone else may not have the unction to study these things out and may just keep their faith in simplicity... as a child like Jesus said.

[halifaxchristian]

That's why the author of Hebrews says:

"...Let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentence from dead works, and of faith toward God...beloved, we are persuaded better things of you, and things that accompany salvation...to the full assurance of hope unto the end."-Hebrews 6:1,9,11

[halifaxchristian]

But yeah...I feel you trust.

[Guest Zayit]

The scripture in Luke that describes this same time in the history says to look for the time when the streets of Jerusalem are no longer trampled over by the Gentiles, which I believe happened in June of 1967.  You may not have to wait long at all.

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They are still being trampled upon, trodden down by the nations, and the "Palestinians" are looking to not only take it back but to destroy all the Jews whist doing it.