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"Christianity is magical"__ John Internet Poster

JAG Replies:
Not to be picky, but there is nothing "magical" involved in Christianity's
supernaturalism.
There are natural laws in the unseen world and, in my view, one of those
laws is that physical material reality can be changed and manipulated
for the good, by thought processes. For example, my view is that when
Jesus healed people, He was exercising His power to use the natural
laws of Heaven, to do good here on earth ~ and of course that appears
to us, in our present condition, to be supernatural. But to Jesus, it was
natural to have the power to heal human diseases by merely speaking
words. Even to raise dead people. "Lazarus come out", said the
Lord Jesus, and Lazarus, who had been dead for four (4) days came out
of the tomb. (That's in John chapter 11.)

Jesus merely spoke words to a fig tree and the fig tree instantly died.
Jesus was using that situation as a teaching moment, to teach His disciples
how to do things like that ~~ and later on, in the book of Acts, they DID do
things like that.
( Matthew 21:19 tells about the fig tree incident.)

Thoughts?

 

 

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1 hour ago, JAG** said:

Thoughts

God's ways are not man's ways.

I cannot begin to fathom the supernatural methods, if any, used by God. He thinks and it is done.

Since becoming a believer I have learned more and more of what God says to us, his promises, and have gained faith and believing them. And learning the requirements to ask according to his will that he hear me.                  How he actually accomplishes the request I asked of him maybe very interesting someday to learn.

My thoughts about this is the importance of faith, belief, as we are taught in Scripture. Asking, then believing I have already received it. I did not believe the apostles had any power to do any miracles. But I do believe they had the ability, the faith, to draw a upon God's Power and Promises.

Prayer is not overcoming God's reluctance.                      Prayer is laying hold of his willingness!

Believing.......

My thoughts...


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Posted
11 hours ago, JAG** said:

"Christianity is magical"__ John Internet Poster

JAG Replies:
Not to be picky, but there is nothing "magical" involved in Christianity's
supernaturalism.
There are natural laws in the unseen world and, in my view, one of those
laws is that physical material reality can be changed and manipulated
for the good, by thought processes. For example, my view is that when
Jesus healed people, He was exercising His power to use the natural
laws of Heaven, to do good here on earth ~ and of course that appears
to us, in our present condition, to be supernatural. But to Jesus, it was
natural to have the power to heal human diseases by merely speaking
words. Even to raise dead people. "Lazarus come out", said the
Lord Jesus, and Lazarus, who had been dead for four (4) days came out
of the tomb. (That's in John chapter 11.)

Jesus merely spoke words to a fig tree and the fig tree instantly died.
Jesus was using that situation as a teaching moment, to teach His disciples
how to do things like that ~~ and later on, in the book of Acts, they DID do
things like that.
( Matthew 21:19 tells about the fig tree incident.)

Thoughts?``

Hi JAG,

My thoughts go to 1 Corinthians, the first 2 Chapters which contrast the wisdom of the world and the Wisdom of God, and compare things natural with things spiriual.

Not all that is supernatural comes from God.

TEN TRANSCENDENT VERSES:

1Co 2:6-16  However, we speak wisdom among those who are mature, yet not the wisdom of this age, nor of the rulers of this age, who are coming to nothing.  (7)  But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, the hidden wisdom which God ordained before the ages for our glory,  (8)  which none of the rulers of this age knew; for had they known, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.  (9)  But as it is written: "EYE HAS NOT SEEN, NOR EAR HEARD, NOR HAVE ENTERED INTO THE HEART OF MAN THE THINGS WHICH GOD HAS PREPARED FOR THOSE WHO LOVE HIM."  (10)  But God has revealed them to us through His Spirit. For the Spirit searches all things, yes, the deep things of God.  (11)  For what man knows the things of a man except the spirit of the man which is in him? Even so no one knows the things of God except the Spirit of God.  (12)  Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, that we might know the things that have been freely given to us by God.  (13)  These things we also speak, not in words which man's wisdom teaches but which the Holy Spirit teaches, comparing spiritual things with spiritual.  (14)  But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.  (15)  But he who is spiritual judges all things, yet he himself is rightly judged by no one.  (16)  For "WHO HAS KNOWN THE MIND OF THE LORD THAT HE MAY INSTRUCT HIM?" But we have the mind of Christ.

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