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[Mike Mclees]

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[Mike Mclees]

On 10/19/2021 at 2:23 PM, Mike Mclees said:

 

 

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This may see a bit longer than I usually post but I pray it will be read in whole content. The days show us time is very short and the end is right around the corner.  

I would  know that this is difficult for many Pre Trib believers. I really didn't want to get into translations but It is at the heart of our issues.  

In Matt 24:15 Jesus spoke of the abomination of Desolation. According to pre- Trib advocates this speak of the whole final seven years. They never say anything about the Great Tribulation spoken of In Daniel. They just say the final seven years is tribulation but do not say Great Tribulation as Jesus Did. So this then is saying the final seven years is terrible persecution by the Antichrist and Gods wrath for the period of seven years which certain saints do not have to go through  This is not the way it is.  The seven year peace in Israel is broken 3& 1/2 yrs after the Seven yrs is begun. This makes the biblical final 7 yrs is two parts  each being 3&1/2 yrs. Jesus spoke as Daniel also that the abomination that makes desolate happens when the antichrist declares Himself to be God and desi crates the new Temple built during the first 3&1/2 yrs and this is a time of promised peace. The Abomination that makes desolate begins the time of " Jacobs Trouble" ( Antichrist Rule)which is the last 3&1/2 yrs. The antichrist will seek to destroy the Church of Jesus Christ yet Pre Trib says certain saints supposedly  do not to have to go through this seven years. there is nothing in the Bible that teaches that. If you ask  they cannot produce the scripture to back it up.

This is food for thought. It says in 1 Thessalonians 4:16.  For the Lord himself shall announce  from Heaven with a loud shout, and with the Trump of God sounding. The dead in Christ shall descend first

When I first became a believer Pre- trib used this verse but said the catching away would be a silent event. They even made movies to that affect. When it became evident to believers that there would be a great Trumpet from God, they stopped saying it was silent. HMMM  Think now. Some here may still remember this. It would not make sense because it will be heard around the world. What does make sense is the end or wrath of God is sounding to  our attention that the Bride is taken and found standing on a sea of Glass before God (Rev 15) while the unbelieving world is going to be judged. The saints we read of in  Thessalonians 4 are with the bride if they are willing to die for Christ even after they are awakened to the Pre - Trib error 

This tells us that Pre- Trib was a made up event.    Daniel 9:27

Even though there are different Bible versions of interpretation, the ones I have listed still say the same thing about the abomination of desolation being mid term of the peace agreement so the pre Trib believers cannot say that the seven years tribulation can be the way they say. 

King James Version
27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the Daniel 9:27overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

New International Version
27 He will confirm a covenant with many for one ‘seven.’[a] In the middle of the ‘seven’ he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And at the temple[c] he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him.[d]”[e]

Daniel 9:27
New International Version
27 He will co‘seven’ he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And at the temple[c] he will set up nfirm a covenant with many for one ‘seven.’[a] In the middle of the an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him.[d]”[e]

Daniel 9:27
New American Standard Bible

27 And he will confirm a covenant with the many for one week, but in the middle of the week he will put a stop to sacrifice and grain offering; and on the wing of [a]abominations will come the one who makes desolate, until a complete destruction, one that is [c]decreed, gushes forth on the one who [d]makes desolate.”

 

Edited October 21, 2021 by Mike Mclees

[missmuffet]

We will have to agree to disagree. 

[Mike Mclees]

35 minutes ago, missmuffet said:

We will have to agree to disagree. 

I am saddened for that. I will still lift you up. I would love to see you face to face. Not to mock though but to joy with you.