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It is a tough place for a person to be, when something so intrinsic to your personal being, is a sinful condition, especially for those that have grown up in Christian homes. I think most of us desire close intimate companionship, yet those that struggle with homosexual attraction are put in a position where that is denied them. That is a heavy burden.


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4 hours ago, Hopefully said:

Gods people eventually repent their sins and ask forgiveness. The problem with homosexuality is they do not want to repent and ask to be forgiven.  They want the world to accept what they do claiming no wrongdoing and no need to change.

Homosexuality, or homosexuals? Be concise for homosexuality is not "they," my friend. By your words, you aren't addressing homosexuality in the OP but rather, homosexuals themselves. 

Those who belong to Jesus Christ do indeed repent, even some who struggle with homosexuality. They stumble and possibly fall, but rise to their feet once more. Take care with your judgments, @Hopefully, for you aren't privy to that which is hidden from your sight.

Are we any better than anyone else? Take heed because pride blinds the unrighteous judge. At no time can any of us proclaim, "I'm better than this one! My sins aren't as bad!" :) 

 

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47 minutes ago, teddyv said:

It is a tough place for a person to be, when something so intrinsic to your personal being, is a sinful condition, especially for those that have grown up in Christian homes. I think most of us desire close intimate companionship, yet those that struggle with homosexual attraction are put in a position where that is denied them. That is a heavy burden.

Teddyv, i agree with your care about how others may feel, but i disagree with what you say.

To say that being homossexual is so intrinsec to their personal being, gives me the impression that they belong in a different position than others who deal with a sinful nature. Where does this idea of "homossexuality is part of who you are" comes from and how does this contrast with what everyone experiences in their struggles? Doesn't the lazy person believe laziness is just part of who they are? Isn't the addict convinced that it's just part of who they are? Doesn't the victimist believe that they are truly victims of life? Isn't indulging our own ego the root of what separates us from God? How do homossexuals have it different than others?

One thing is to be kind and empathetic to those who struggle, another thing is to accept alien concepts of who-we-are. We all have a burden and we all are welcomed to exchange it for a lighter one. Vulgar concepts from this world come with illusory weights. We, as Jesus' followers, have the duty to keep things well defined, and put light where there are shadows, refusing all the grey areas invented by humans who look for a spectrum between "right" and "wrong".

Most of us, even as believers, struggle daily with thoughts of who we are that we are not. We can only be above such thoughts of hopelessness because God has told us who we can be and what we can do with Him, for Him, for others.

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1 hour ago, teddyv said:

That is a heavy burden.

““Come to me all of you who are tired from the heavy burden you have been forced to carry. I will give you rest. Accept my teaching. Learn from me. I am gentle and humble in spirit. And you will be able to get some rest. Yes, the teaching that I ask you to accept is easy. The load I give you to carry is light.””
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭11:28-30‬ ‭

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1 hour ago, Abrielle said:

Teddyv, i agree with your care about how others may feel, but i disagree with what you say.

To say that being homossexual is so intrinsec to their personal being, gives me the impression that they belong in a different position than others who deal with a sinful nature. Where does this idea of "homossexuality is part of who you are" comes from and how does this contrast with what everyone experiences in their struggles? Doesn't the lazy person believe laziness is just part of who they are? Isn't the addict convinced that it's just part of who they are? Doesn't the victimist believe that they are truly victims of life? Isn't indulging our own ego the root of what separates us from God? How do homossexuals have it different than others?

One thing is to be kind and empathetic to those who struggle, another thing is to accept alien concepts of who-we-are. We all have a burden and we all are welcomed to exchange it for a lighter one. Vulgar concepts from this world come with illusory weights. We, as Jesus' followers, have the duty to keep things well defined, and put light where there are shadows, refusing all the grey areas invented by humans who look for a spectrum between "right" and "wrong".

Most of us, even as believers, struggle daily with thoughts of who we are that we are not. We can only be above such thoughts of hopelessness because God has told us who we can be and what we can do with Him, for Him, for others.

I meant that sexuality itself is intrinsic to our personal being, straight or otherwise.

I'm not in the position that homosexual people are in so it's very hard to understand what the "lighter burden" that Jesus offers means to those people - how would that be actualized in their life? Me quoting that verse to someone in this position would feel like an empty platitude.

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13 minutes ago, teddyv said:

I meant that sexuality itself is intrinsic to our personal being, straight or otherwise.

I'm not in the position that homosexual people are in so it's very hard to understand what the "lighter burden" that Jesus offers means to those people - how would that be actualized in their life? Me quoting that verse to someone in this position would feel like an empty platitude.

 

Please, forgive me if i misrepresented your post with mine.

I think that homosexuality is not any different than being a celibatarian, or even a married person, or single person. The animalistic nature of sexuality exists for all. Even a married couple can make wrong choices with each other, together. The topic is about homossexuals, so i get that you would mention them in particular, but i added my post thinking about the kid who is struggling with what he/she hears in the media/school/etc. and what the Holy Spirit tells them in their conscience. Their burden is heavy, we all have a burden, so they are not alone, they are able to surpass this, God didn't create them to be miserable, we are all the same, we all deny ourselves so Jesus can live in us.

 

 

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As Christians we are here to shed God's light in the darkness. Homosexuality is darkness. I hate to seem insensitive but the truth is the truth and it's wrong along with all of the government sanctioned support of it.

I have seen the results for some who bought into the gay line and lived it to the point of attempting to change their sex surgically. This is no exaggeration. They are some of the most miserable people alive with one of the highest rates of suicide. Many of them put on a good public facade, but that's all it is. A facade.

You CAN'T be happy running from God. All you can do is attempt to sear your conscience to the point you don't feel anything any more. People with seared consciences are like walking zombies. There really isn't anything there, so they can be anything or do anything and they won't care. Only God can fix this. Only sincere repentance can begin the process.

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