Who is the Little Horn of Daniel 8? Can this be linked with the Little Horn in Daniel 7?

[The Light]

46 minutes ago, Charlie744 said:

The beast is the same as the 4th kingdom in chapter 2. Just as with the other kingdoms each kingdom in 2 is the same kingdom in 7 & 8.

In 7 there is a:

1) beast, 

2) out of this beast comes 10 horns,

3) then another little horn comes out of the beast but has eyes like a man.

Three separate entities- can not possibly be the same.

The little horn is the little horn- no mention he is the AC (which is why I asked to consider Daniel ONLY), and not bring in this AC figure that is mentioned in Revelation. 

Regarding 9:27- the ‘he’ is ‘He’, the Messiah- this misinterpretation was the work of the same little horn (RCC). 

The little horn is a man. The RCC is not the little horn. The RCC is the woman that dresses in purple and scarlet that will ride the beast and yet be destroyed by the beast.

[adamjedgar]

12 minutes ago, truth7t7 said:

You mean the Ellen G. White, 7th Day Adventist investigative judgement, that was created after the great disappointment in the false prediction of the second coming of Jesus Christ

Do you really believe Ellen G White had 2,000+ dreams and visions given by God?

I dont follow Ellen G. White or 7th Day Adventism, but the 10 commandments are alive and well, including the 7th day sabbath that I follow

Jesus Is The Lord

To just correct your history...Seventh Day Adventist did not predict the second coming was in 1844. 

That has never been an SDA doctrine! It has nothing to do with SDA church anymore than the history behind the reformation linking all Christians with Catholicism! Ie we are not catholics!

 

Btw, I am really glad there are other commandment keeping Sabbath keepers here.

Edited December 22, 2021 by adamjedgar

[adamjedgar]

4 minutes ago, The Light said:

The little horn is a man. The RCC is not the little horn. The RCC is the woman that dresses in purple and scarlet that will ride the beast and yet be destroyed by the beast.

You must like horses...that "metaphor" of the women riding the beast has you convinced it must be "literally" true.

 

Edited December 22, 2021 by adamjedgar

[truth7t7]

5 minutes ago, adamjedgar said:

To just correct your history...Seventh Day Adventist did not predict the second coming was in 1844. 

That has never been an SDA doctrine! It has nothing to do with SDA church anymore than the history behind the reformation linking all Christians with Catholicism! Ie we are not catholics!

 

The Adventist Followed In The Footsteps Of William Miller, Ellen Was A Millerite Disciple

Wikipedia: The Great Disappointment in the Millerite movement was the reaction that followed Baptist preacher William Miller's proclamations that Jesus Christ would return to the Earth by 1844, what he called the Advent. His study of the Daniel 8 prophecy during the Second Great Awakening led him to the conclusion that Daniel's "cleansing of the sanctuary" was cleansing of the world from sin when Christ would come, and he and many others prepared, but October 22, 1844 came, and they were disappointed.

These events paved the way for the Adventists who formed the Seventh-day Adventist Church. They contended that what had happened on October 22 was not Jesus' return, as Miller had thought, but the start of Jesus' final work of atonement, the cleansing in the heavenly sanctuary, leading up to the Second Coming.

[truth7t7]

15 minutes ago, adamjedgar said:

1 John 4:3 but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world.

 

If he is a man...then he is clearly 2000 years old!

 

The Name Game

Just as the word (Trinity) isnt found in scripture, but we know well it represents the Father, Son, Holy Spirit

Just like the word (Rapture) dosent exist in scripture, but we know it represents the Catching Up

Once Again, Daniel's (Little Horn) Paul's (Man Of Sin) John's (The Beast) are all the same "Future" bad guy, that is represented by the words (The Antichrist)

[Charlie744]

33 minutes ago, truth7t7 said:

Charlie you cant work around the fact that the final judgement is taking place below, the horn speaking is the beast, and his "Body" will be given to the burning flame, The parallel teaching is seen in Revelation 19:20

Daniel 7:9-11AKJV

 9 I beheld till the thrones were cast down, and the Ancient of days did sit, whose garment was white as snow, and the hair of his head like the pure wool: his throne was like the fiery flame, and his wheels as burning fire. 10 A fiery stream issued and came forth from before him: thousand thousands ministered unto him, and ten thousand times ten thousand stood before him: the judgment was set, and the books were opened. 11 I beheld then because of the voice of the great words which the horn spake: I beheld even till the beast was slain, and his body destroyed, and given to the burning flame.

Daniel 7:11 & Revelation 19:20 same bad guy, same "Future" event in parallel teachings

Revelation 19:20AKJV

 20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

It says the little horn and the 10 horns come OUT of the beast. 

Please leave Revelation out of this for now. One tries to fit the same piece of the puzzle into both places at the same time. Major mistake. Just focus on Daniel. 

The beast, the 10 horns and the little horn ALL came to be before 530AD . This date simply represents the last of the 3 entities- the little horn (papacy) that took over power from pagan Rome. 

I KNOW you can not see this but this is why Daniel is so misinterpreted and can not YET be used to interpret Revelation. 

[Charlie744]

34 minutes ago, truth7t7 said:

Once Again, Daniel's (Little Horn) Paul's (Man Of Sin) John's (The Beast) are all the same "Future" bad guy, that is represented by the words (The Antichrist)

Daniel 7:11 (the horn) speaking and (the beast) are the same guy, and his body is given to the burning flame, Revelation 19:20 is a parallel teaching of the same "Future" event

Jesus Is The Lord

No. There are 3 separate entities. 

 

35 minutes ago, truth7t7 said:

Once Again, Daniel's (Little Horn) Paul's (Man Of Sin) John's (The Beast) are all the same "Future" bad guy, that is represented by the words (The Antichrist)

Daniel 7:11 (the horn) speaking and (the beast) are the same guy, and his body is given to the burning flame, Revelation 19:20 is a parallel teaching of the same "Future" event

Jesus Is The Lord

No, they are 3 separate entities.

[Charlie744]

24 minutes ago, adamjedgar said:

1 John 4:3 but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world.

 

If he is a man...then he is clearly 2000 years old!

 

No... he is clearly a man - with eyes of a man. He is the pope / papacy which has at its head a pope in every generation/period until the end of time. No other person or group headed by a people could fit. 

[Charlie744]

24 minutes ago, The Light said:

The little horn is a man. The RCC is not the little horn. The RCC is the woman that dresses in purple and scarlet that will ride the beast and yet be destroyed by the beast.

Once again, I can not discuss Revelation until Daniel is done. But the little horn is the papacy that rides the beast... they can not be the same ..they (3)have been identified in chapter 7.

[truth7t7]

37 minutes ago, The Light said:

The little horn is a man. The RCC is not the little horn. The RCC is the woman that dresses in purple and scarlet that will ride the beast and yet be destroyed by the beast.

Jerusalem's/Priesthood is the woman that dresses in purple and scarlet, not Rome or Catholicism as many teach and believe

Jerusalem is guilty of the prophets blood, Rome didnt exist to be guilty as Revelation 18:24 explains

Revelation 18:24AKJV

And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.