Scriptural Example of Satan's Lies

[Diaste]

What examples from Scripture do we have of the lies Satan tells? I don't mean the deceptions; I mean the actual lie from his mouth e.g.,

"...you will be as gods knowing good and evil." Gen 3:5

[BeyondET]

1 hour ago, Diaste said:

What examples from Scripture do we have of the lies Satan tells? I don't mean the deceptions; I mean the actual lie from his mouth e.g.,

"...you will be as gods knowing good and evil." Gen 3:5

That's wasn't a lie, God said now that they knew of good and evil, they can't eat of the tree again.

Now the be like gods possibly 

[Diaste]

13 minutes ago, BeyondET said:

That's wasn't a lie, God said now that they knew of good and evil, they can't eat of the tree again.

Now the be like gods possibly 

Oh. That makes sense. It seems the lie would be about God's motivation for the prohibition. Maybe?

[BeyondET]

6 minutes ago, Diaste said:

Oh. That makes sense. It seems the lie would be about God's motivation for the prohibition. Maybe?

satan is quite clever, he can speak a truth and lie at the same time, like when he said you will not die from eating the forbidden fruit.

Yes they could have lived for ever in fleshly bodies but no way will God allow such a thing

Edited January 30, 2022 by BeyondET

[Michael37]

On 1/31/2022 at 1:03 AM, Diaste said:

What examples from Scripture do we have of the lies Satan tells? I don't mean the deceptions; I mean the actual lie from his mouth e.g.,

"...you will be as gods knowing good and evil." Gen 3:5

Hi Diaste,

Good to see this interesting thread from you. You want specific examples of Satan the deceiver, false accuser of the brethren, father of lies etc. in action, not just general references. 

I suggest God knew Satan was lying about Job and allowed him to be tested to prove this.

 Job 1:9-11  So Satan answered the LORD and said, "Does Job fear God for nothing?  (10)  Have You not made a hedge around him, around his household, and around all that he has on every side? You have blessed the work of his hands, and his possessions have increased in the land.  (11)  But now, stretch out Your hand and touch all that he has, and he will surely curse You to Your face!"

Also it transpires that Satan was the author of Peter's utterance in this example:

Mat 16:22-23  Then Peter took Him aside and began to rebuke Him, saying, "Far be it from You, Lord; this shall not happen to You!"  (23)  But He turned and said to Peter, "Get behind Me, Satan! You are an offense to Me, for you are not mindful of the things of God, but the things of men."

[Diaste]

12 hours ago, Michael37 said:

Hi Diaste,

Good to see this interesting thread from you. You want specific examples of Satan the deceiver, false accuser of the brethren, father of lies etc. in action, not just general references. 

I suggest God knew Satan was lying about Job and allowed him to be tested to prove this.

 Job 1:9-11  So Satan answered the LORD and said, "Does Job fear God for nothing?  (10)  Have You not made a hedge around him, around his household, and around all that he has on every side? You have blessed the work of his hands, and his possessions have increased in the land.  (11)  But now, stretch out Your hand and touch all that he has, and he will surely curse You to Your face!"

Also it transpires that Satan was the author of Peter's utterance in this example:

Mat 16:22-23  Then Peter took Him aside and began to rebuke Him, saying, "Far be it from You, Lord; this shall not happen to You!"  (23)  But He turned and said to Peter, "Get behind Me, Satan! You are an offense to Me, for you are not mindful of the things of God, but the things of men."

Good morning,

Yes. It came up in another conversation with a self described agnostic. She made a good point about finding no examples of a lie from the mouth of Satan. I pointed out the Gen 3 conversation; '...you shall not surely die...' and '...be as gods...' 

They did die and I take that to mean spiritually, maybe physically too, and they did become like them 'knowing good and evil' but not 'as gods'. The conversation turned from that to other topics. 

Thanks for the examples above. What I'm seeing overall appears to be Satan challenging God's authority. Satan is telling Eve, "God said that? Well He's wrong and He shouldn't keep it from you." or maybe, "Those are aren't the real reasons, God lied to you, I'm telling the truth."

It looks like the truth was used sway, deceive. Not a blatant lie, a subtle one, not easy to see, hidden within the truth. No wonder the agnostic can't see it. 

I thought perhaps Isaiah 14:13-14 was also a huge lie, several of them, and I brought that up. Ignored.

Anything else you can think of?

 

[Michael37]

10 hours ago, Diaste said:

Good morning,

Yes. It came up in another conversation with a self described agnostic. She made a good point about finding no examples of a lie from the mouth of Satan. I pointed out the Gen 3 conversation; '...you shall not surely die...' and '...be as gods...' 

They did die and I take that to mean spiritually, maybe physically too, and they did become like them 'knowing good and evil' but not 'as gods'. The conversation turned from that to other topics. 

Thanks for the examples above. What I'm seeing overall appears to be Satan challenging God's authority. Satan is telling Eve, "God said that? Well He's wrong and He shouldn't keep it from you." or maybe, "Those are aren't the real reasons, God lied to you, I'm telling the truth."

It looks like the truth was used sway, deceive. Not a blatant lie, a subtle one, not easy to see, hidden within the truth. No wonder the agnostic can't see it. 

I thought perhaps Isaiah 14:13-14 was also a huge lie, several of them, and I brought that up. Ignored.

Anything else you can think of?

Satan's Lying Influence Is Often Behind The Scenes & By Faith In God and His Word We Shield Ourselves From It.

Eph 6:11-12  Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.  (12)  For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places.

Eph 6:16  above all, taking the shield of faith with which you will be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked one.

Act 5:3  But Peter said, "Ananias, why has Satan filled your heart to lie to the Holy Spirit and keep back part of the price of the land for yourself?

2Th 2:9-12  The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders,  (10)  and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved.  (11)  And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie,  (12)  that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

2Co 11:13-15  For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into apostles of Christ.  (14)  And no wonder! For Satan himself transforms himself into an angel of light.  (15)  Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also transform themselves into ministers of righteousness, whose end will be according to their works.

Rev 12:9-10  So the great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was cast to the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.  (10)  Then I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, "Now salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren, who accused them before our God day and night, has been cast down.

Rev 20:2-3  He laid hold of the dragon, that serpent of old, who is the Devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years;  (3)  and he cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal on him, so that he should deceive the nations no more till the thousand years were finished. But after these things he must be released for a little while.

Rev 20:7-10  Now when the thousand years have expired, Satan will be released from his prison  (8)  and will go out to deceive the nations which are in the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle, whose number is as the sand of the sea.  (9)  They went up on the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city. And fire came down from God out of heaven and devoured them.  (10)  The devil, who deceived them, was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone where the beast and the false prophet are. And they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.

Quote from the Believer's Bible Commentary on Zechariah 3:1-10
D. Joshua the High Priest (Chap. 3)
Meaning: The priesthood, representative of the nation, cleansed and restored.
3:1-3 Joshua the high priest, clothed in filthy garments, pictures the priesthood as representative of Israel. Satan (Heb. for adversary) accuses Israel of being unfit to carry out its priestly function. God answers Satan that He has plucked the nation as a brand . . . from the fire, i.e., the captivity.

[Diaste]

2 hours ago, Michael37 said:

Satan's Lying Influence Is Often Behind The Scenes & By Faith In God and His Word We Shield Ourselves From It.

Eph 6:11-12  Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.  (12)  For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places.

Eph 6:16  above all, taking the shield of faith with which you will be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked one.

Act 5:3  But Peter said, "Ananias, why has Satan filled your heart to lie to the Holy Spirit and keep back part of the price of the land for yourself?

2Th 2:9-12  The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders,  (10)  and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved.  (11)  And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie,  (12)  that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

2Co 11:13-15  For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into apostles of Christ.  (14)  And no wonder! For Satan himself transforms himself into an angel of light.  (15)  Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also transform themselves into ministers of righteousness, whose end will be according to their works.

Rev 12:9-10  So the great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was cast to the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.  (10)  Then I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, "Now salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren, who accused them before our God day and night, has been cast down.

Rev 20:2-3  He laid hold of the dragon, that serpent of old, who is the Devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years;  (3)  and he cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal on him, so that he should deceive the nations no more till the thousand years were finished. But after these things he must be released for a little while.

Rev 20:7-10  Now when the thousand years have expired, Satan will be released from his prison  (8)  and will go out to deceive the nations which are in the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle, whose number is as the sand of the sea.  (9)  They went up on the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city. And fire came down from God out of heaven and devoured them.  (10)  The devil, who deceived them, was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone where the beast and the false prophet are. And they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.

Quote from the Believer's Bible Commentary on Zechariah 3:1-10
D. Joshua the High Priest (Chap. 3)
Meaning: The priesthood, representative of the nation, cleansed and restored.
3:1-3 Joshua the high priest, clothed in filthy garments, pictures the priesthood as representative of Israel. Satan (Heb. for adversary) accuses Israel of being unfit to carry out its priestly function. God answers Satan that He has plucked the nation as a brand . . . from the fire, i.e., the captivity.

This isn't so much for me as it is looking for evidence to fulfill a request.

The person in question understand the bible says Satan lies and deceives and is the father of lies. What they are saying is no where in scripture does it show where Satan told a lie. I'm convinced, "You shall not surely die" is a blatant lie. Isaiah 14:13-14 are more lies. I get this is spiritually discerned and I'll probably get no where. Just thought I'd see what others say.

Like this, "the devil who deceived them." What lie was used and is there biblical support for a specific lie, or lies, that deceived them? And it'll have to be simple enough for a young child to understand. 

 

[Warrior of truth]

Satan doesn't get quoted much in the Bible so its difficult to find what you are asking for.

The book of Job came to mind and someone has already cited a passage from it.

Perhaps the best exaple is the one from Genesis when he tells eve they will not die and be like gods.

[Michael37]

4 hours ago, Diaste said:

This isn't so much for me as it is looking for evidence to fulfill a request.

The person in question understand the bible says Satan lies and deceives and is the father of lies. What they are saying is no where in scripture does it show where Satan told a lie. I'm convinced, "You shall not surely die" is a blatant lie. Isaiah 14:13-14 are more lies. I get this is spiritually discerned and I'll probably get no where. Just thought I'd see what others say.

Like this, "the devil who deceived them." What lie was used and is there biblical support for a specific lie, or lies, that deceived them? And it'll have to be simple enough for a young child to understand. 

Yes, it is implicit in Scripture that Satan spoke through the serpent to deceive Eve by contradicting God's warning that the penalty for eating the forbidden fruit was death. 

Also, maybe it's pedantic to say Lucifer didn't become Satan until he actively opposed God, but certainly such self- aggrandisement here does amount to a lie because of its false claims. 

Isa 14:12-14  "How you are fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! How you are cut down to the ground, You who weakened the nations!  (13)  For you have said in your heart: 'I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God; I will also sit on the mount of the congregation On the farthest sides of the north;  (14)  I will ascend above the heights of the clouds, I will be like the Most High.'

I have to wonder what case your agnostic contact will make of the direct and indirect Scriptural references to Satan's lying.