Christianity is Judaism?

[Guest shiloh357]

Please see my ealier posts in this thread.

[Trust & Obey]

Had a discussion this weekend in which someone was bashing Christianity, stating that it "evolved" from Judaism.  They mentioned the OT.  I said it didn't, mentioned the NT as the main basis for Christianity, as well as Jesus eradicating most of the OT laws.  What do you guys think?

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Christianity did not "evolve" out of Judaism. Judaism, as the religion we know now, did not come into existance until 72 A.D. after the Temple was destroyed.

Christianity IS the product of the faith of the OT. The Christian faith finds its roots in the Israelite religion of the OT. The New Testament is written out of OT knowledege. The Apostles had only one set of Scriptures to preach from, the OT. The New Testament is written in the language of the Festivals and the Sacrificial system of the OT.

Jesus did not eradicate the OT laws, but rather he brought them to fuller expression. The OT were created by God, and Jesus as God has no reason to eradicate them. They are not Jewish laws, they are God's. The OT commandments were never the problem. What Jesus came against was the extra-biblical laws and commandments that some of the Pharisiees had created and made more important the Word of God, and the hypocritial ways they enforced them.

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I agree. Also, Jesus came against the Pharisees for observing the laws outwardly, all the while ignoring their spiritual applications. Thus, they were white washed sepulchres full of dead men's bones.

[Jake for Jesus]

I wrote:

Christian Zionists who aren't like you who withhold the Gospel from the Jewish people and in some cases to teach againist it

Those are are like that are being taken for a ride by the Devil.

Yod's response:

Nothing in the world grieves me more than that these days.

My Response:

You said it, brother! I don't know how anyone could be a Christian and be like that. On the other hand, maybe they aren't.

[Guest shiloh357]

I wrote:

Christian Zionists who aren't like you who withhold the Gospel from the Jewish people and in some cases to teach againist it

Those are are like that are being taken for a ride by the Devil.

Yod's response:

Nothing in the world grieves me more than that these days.

My Response:

You said it, brother! I don't know how anyone could be a Christian and be like that. On the other hand, maybe they aren't.

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Starting to get a bit judgemental, aren't you? Many are simply not knowledgeable and need to shown the correct way to support Israel. I would rather have an over zealous Israel supporter than an indifferent, apathetic, replacement theologian any day of the week.

[Jake for Jesus]

shiloh357 wrote:

Starting to get a bit judgemental, aren't you?

My Response:

You may be right! I think I learned it from you.

[Guest shiloh357]

shiloh357 wrote:

Starting to get a bit judgemental, aren't you?

My Response:

You may be right! I think I learned it from you.

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I will be praying that you learn how act like a mature Christian. You need to grow up.

[Jake for Jesus]

shiloh357 wrote:

I will be praying that you learn how act like a mature Christian. You need to grow up.

My Response:

Are you beating your wife again?

Friend, I am now beginning to think there is something wrong with you.

[Guest shiloh357]

shiloh357 wrote:

I will be praying that you learn how act like a mature Christian. You need to grow up.

My Response:

Are you beating your wife again?

Friend, I am now beginning to think there is something wrong with you.

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There is nothing wrong with me. All of the hostility is coming from you. You are extremely bitter and don't like having your points of view challenged. You said in the welcome forum that you are new to posting on message boards. Let me explain something. We all have equal rights on the boards to post our points of view, and we have the right to disagree with each other. We have the right to challenge each other. Perhaps that does not set well with you, but that is life on a message board.

So far, all you have been doing is slinging darts because you are angry that your posts were not accepted without question. You have a lot to learn about board ettiquette. Now all you can do is lash out in hostility, bitterness, and that does not reflect Christ at all. We all have our moments, I suppose, as I am not perfect either. As regards these threads though, no one has insulted you. No one has mistreated you. I simply dared to disagree with you. Apparently that is a problem for you.

Again, I think you approached this as if you were going to set us straight, and it is not working out the way you figured. So, since you cannot repsond to my posts in a substantive, well thought out manner, all you can do is claim that any dialogue with me is a waste of your time. Your lack of substantive responses is really where the problem lies.

I am also sorry that you claim to be Jewish and Christian, as your conduct towards a fellow Jew is immature, a reproach to Christ, a disgrace to our people and the values we espouse.

[Jake for Jesus]

shiloh357 wrote:

Apparently that is a problem for you.

My Response:

Not any more it isn't! For I am going to put you away into a nice little padded room on my ignore list.

[Guest shiloh357]

shiloh357 wrote:

Apparently that is a problem for you.

My Response:

Not any more it isn't! For I am going to put you away into a nice little padded room on my ignore list.

I rest my case.