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Edited January 12, 2009 by Rick McCadden

[Guest Tigershark]

Why the lack of intrest in child abuse?

first--A very hard subject to deal with, very hard.  what sick mind want to see abuse directed at a defenseless person.  yet alone a person in the care, custody, and control, of many times the abuser.

Second-- one day child abuse is spanking the next day child abuse is not spanking,  who even know the exact defineation of child abuse??  The cops say this, the medical world says this, the mental health world says this, the courts never tell us exactlly what it is they just send people to prison with little explination. and leave everyone else wondering.

third-- I have known people that have been "investigatied" for child abuse.  the investigation was closer to a which hunt.  after a long drawn out processes the chargs were dropped.  But even after the investigation there is a record of the event that will last forever.  These people have to forever live and answer questions concerning it forever.  This is insanity.

[Guest okiejack]

I think TigerShark makes some very accurate points.

The most significant of TigerShark's point is the lack of a hard line definition of what actually constitutes abuse. In the case of physical abuse most states say that any marks constitute abuse. This is rediculous. Ever try to restrain a child that is out of control, hurting others and themselves? Ever try to verbally correct a child that won't listen?

The most worrisome problem for me is that our child welfare agencies are based on secular ideals. These secular ideals involve behavioral theories that are not based on science or GOD but rather are based on a secular notion of how things should be. These secular ideals include the idea that discipline is not important because there is no right or wrong behavior. That self-esteem is important and that self-worth is not important. Also, to generate funding our child welfare agencies exaggerate the occurrence, seriousness and long term impact of child abuse. In other words our child welfare system is being used to conduct social engineering experiments.

Look at the research that supports the claim that children raised in abusive homes will be abusers as adults. Every study I have seen relies on anecdotal testimonials from criminals in prison or people found guilty of child abuse. This is not science, it is opinion polling of the very people most likely to lie or at least embellish the truth.

[God's rebel child]

probably because there's nothing to "debate" and a lot of posters here are wanting to debate everything.  Child abuse is horrible-pure and simple.  We can only pray to God that children are spared such scarring that will carry over into adulthood (IF they survive). How sad for any abuse: child, adult, elderly-it's all HORRIBLE.  I often wonder why God allows such suffering.

[Guest okiejack]

And there is the big lie. The idea that child abuse always has a negative affect on the child. That's just not true. Many of us were raised in abusive homes and many of us are better people for it. No pain, no gain.

Even the Bible supports the no pain no gain philosophy. Humanists are the only one's spreading the gain with no pain illusion.

[wordsower]

Rick,

God has called out some very special people like you to help these children and He will bless you eternally for it.  We all have our little part in God's great plan and you've found yours.  May the Lord make His face to shine upon you and be gracious to you.

Many blessings

[byHisGrace]

And there is the big lie. The idea that child abuse always has a negative affect on the child. That's just not true. Many of us were raised in abusive homes and many of us are better people for it. No pain, no gain.

Even the Bible supports the no pain no gain philosophy. Humanists are the only one's spreading the gain with no pain illusion.

"Many of us are better people for it???"

Sorry but that's just too far out there to let slide.  No one is better because of abuse-God can work all things for good, but it sounds as if you're advocating abuse to make us better people.

[Guest okiejack]

ByHisGrace, No I am not advocating for or promoting child abuse. I take GOD at His word that all things work for the good of them that love the Lord. I admit my approach to the childabuse issue is not mainstream humanistic psychobabble. I advocate that survivors of abuse should not dwell on the pain of the abuse but rather they should focus on the now in which they are no longer abused, on forgiveness, and getting on with their life.

[Guest muttly]

Maybe a lot of people shy away from this topic because it's so hurtful. many people can't and won't forgive the perpertrator. it's so evil and so destructive to the soul.

Anyway which abuse? sexual, physical, or emotional?