Microchip ID Implants

[kamusat]

I "rescued" two cats from the pound last year. They were implanted with this chip. However, in order for it to be activated, I had to register it via paperwork they gave me to fill out and send in. (To where, I do not remember). I simply threw it away after I got home.

That being said.... a word of caution. I am an information technology professional and have been in the business for many years. Let me say that what you see in the movies and read/hear in the news about technology isn't necessarily so. I always am amused at how many times I have heard those entities report something about technology that just plain isn't true. I'm not saying they do it intentionally, but if you are not in the business, it's really easy to be confused and not really understand what you are reporting on. I'm sure that is true for other professions as well.

I'm not making a statement one way or the other that this chip technology is "The mark of the Beast", but just offering another perspective.

Blessings, kamust

[Salt]

Am posting the 'mark' scriptures again (with some emphasis):

Rev 13:16-17 KJV And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

Rev 14:9-11 KJV And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb: And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up forever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.

Rev 15:2 KJV And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire: and them that had gotten the victory over the beast, and over his image, and over his mark, and over the number of his name, stand on the sea of glass, having the harps of God.

Rev 16:2 KJV And the first went, and poured out his vial upon the earth; and there fell a noisome and grievous sore upon the men which had the mark of the beast, and upon them which worshiped his image.

Rev 19:20 KJV And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshiped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

Rev 20:4 KJV And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshiped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

Edited September 23, 2005 by Salt

[irishcowboy]

just think about how much easier it would be to have found all the bodies that were burreid in the rubble after the hurricane, how about the tsunami last december... now we have another hurricane coming in....

how much easier it would be to re-unite families that have been separated from each other during these evacuation periods....

how much easier it would have been for rescuers to have found the people that were in need of assistance for evacuation, or rescue....

if only they already had the chip inplanted.....

there are already people in the USA that have the chip in them.....

there was an AMBER alert this afternoon in Oklahoma with a 16 year old girl, broad daylight, and a guy drives up, ( with witnesses in the area ) snags the girl, throws her in the car, and takes off........ now, with the chip, how much easier it would be to find her.... to catch the pervert..... could even hone in and say ok, there she is ( locating her by her chip ) and lets see which chip is close to her location, and then cross ref it to who it is implanted in....

what a wonderful idea....

i do not know how many Christians i have spoken with that have said they will get it as soon as it comes to their area and the price is right......

it is already availible for people..... if you wish to pay the price..... ( not just the monitary price either ).....

privacy? forget it..... not after that.....

heaven? I do not believe a person with it will gain entrance.......

def:

Mark: can be even that of a pin prick, and be classified as a mark..... the hand also does not mean just from the wrist to the finger tips...

oh yea, what does the Bible say abotu tatoo's? dont do them...... what are they???? marks......

a needle mark is a mark.....

so are the injections that were done by those inoculation air guns... they leave a "mark" ( i have one that is about 1/4 inch where one of those air gun things was used....... the medic said i moved... and it ripped my arm.... he was the one that moved.... i was not the only one that day that had blood running down the arm.... yes, it is a "mark "

satan is getting things in possition, if you do not wish to believe those that are calling out warnings, then your own salvation and life is in your own hands....

you see....

The Bible talks about those that have been called to be watchmen.....

if a watchman slumbers, and the enemy attacks, then the warning has not been passed about, and all those that are lost because of his deriliction of duty, will be on his head......

if a watchman does not feel that the news is worthy of passing along, and the enemy attacks, the blood of those lost, again, is on his head....

however,

if the Watchman passes the information, and sounds the alarm, and the people ignore the warnings or call to arms, then their own lives ( salvation ) their blood is on no ones head but their own..........

I have been watching these things since the 70's...... the birth of the computer age so to speak... ( yes, i know they ere around longer then that, )

in 1974 there was a conferance in Wash DC area...... during a break one man was talking with another from a differant group, and as they talked they were walking back to their conferance rooms, one man starts to turn in his meeting room and the other turned while they talked, as the one man entered, he passed his hand under a "black light" and there were figures ( characters ) on teh back of his hand...... the other man saw what they were, they were the computer numbers for "666" ..... this man was a computer programer...... the other man (the one with his hand passing under the black light ) was an exec with the Bank-Americard company.....

that was 30 years ago......

the means has improved,

it has been said that there are trucks ( vans ) already set up to go from community to community.......

mike

[irishcowboy]

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I almost forgot...Digital Angel (Verichip creator) conducted a

conference call and live webcast today, (January

10, 2005,) at 11:00 a.m. EST to discuss the

Company's expectations for fiscal year 2005.

I listened to it and it was pretty boring.

Not much mention about the actual Verichip,

mostly info about the company Digital Angel and

their projected revenue for 2005 and why.

Here are some of the highlights of the call:

They talked about:

1. pet business revenues (chipping pets)

2. a new bio-thermo chip that will be introduced

in the spring of 2005 (interesting)

3. 2005 Verichip sales forcast at one million

dollars

4. a US Nat'l id program for cattle (thought

that was already in effect)

5. the use of the Verichip in the tsunami

disaster area (very little mentioned about this.

Digital Angel denies being involved in the promotion

of the Verichip being used to chip bodies but

admits that there were rumors of their distributors

using it.

6. some confused guy at the end got on the call and

complained that his shares haven't been converted (?)

That's about it. If you want to listen to it, it's

available here until 4/05:

http://www.vcall.com/ClientPage.asp?ID=90246

or

http://www.vcall.com/

Here's a written overview of the conference call:

http://www.digitalangelcorp.com/about_pres...?RELEASE_ID=158

Thanks and God Bless,

Pat Necerato

http://www.TheVerichip.com

Here's some other info you may enjoy:

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-4,000 microchips were used for the tsunami victims

TOT Public Co., offered 4,000 pieces of microchips

which will be implanted in the bodies of tsunami

victims and help in collecting personal information

of the victims.

Mr. Pirapan Soonthornsarathoon, the TOT's Senior

Executive Vice President, said his office had

supplied 4,000 microchips to the Ministry of

Information and Communications Technology (ICT) which

would be implanted in the tsunami victims' bodies,

and had decided to assist in containing bio-data o

each individual.

He said TOT had also installed a video conference

system which would be used in helping survivors

from the massive tsunami waves, and in arranging

meetings by government officials and the cabinet.

*****************************************************

As many as 2,000 people in the world are walking

around with Verichips under their skin. Each

VeriChip user carries a card explaining how to use

the technology. Designated persons must submit their

own ID numbers to Applied Digital before they can

obtain the user data from a company database.

Silverman (CEO) said he is confident the system is

secure. He said even if someone stole one of the

scanners, the thief would need a user ID to access the

data.

****************************************

-There's something known as the Personal Identity

Verification Project that the President Bush is

starting. This stemmed from a homeland security-related

presidential directive and is being managed by the

National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST),

a Commerce Department agency with offices in

Gaithersburg.

In his Aug. 27 directive, President Bush said that "wide variations in the quality and security

of forms of identification used to gain access to

secure federal and other facilities where there is

potential for terrorist attacks need to be eliminated."

Bush called for the development of "secure and reliable

forms of identification" for federal workers and

contract employees. (No, I don't think he's the

anti-chirst)

To that end, federal officials want to replace the

existing piecemeal system of agency-level ID cards

with " smart cards" that are hard to counterfeit,

resistant to tampering and difficult to use by

anyone other than the rightful card-holder if lost

or stolen.

The new generation of ID cards must be able to

digitally store biometric data such as facial

photographs and fingerprint images, bear contact

and contactless interfaces, and allow the encryption

of data that can be used to electronically

verify the user's identity, according to NIST draft

standards.

Such cards will be required for all federal

employees, including members of the military, as

well as for employees of private organizations and

state and local governments who regularly require

access to federally controlled facilities and computer

systems.

That is a universe of more than 2 million people,

said W. Curt Barker, the project manager at NIST.

Barker said the new standards will include tougher

background check requirements before many recipients

can get their agency ID card. Access to particularly

sensitive offices or systems still will require higher

clearance, he said."There's wide variations in the

quality and security of the forms of identification

that people use to get access to federal facilities,"

he said. ". . . To be completely foolproof will be

extraordinarily difficult, but we can raise the risk

for the terrorist or other person who wants to

fraudulently enter a facility and make it a little

bit more difficult for them to get in."

The common standard also will enable many employees

who shuttle between departments to enter different

buildings with one card. NIST, which has spent about $1

million on the project so far, expects to complete

the new standards by late February.

Employees could start using the new cards as early

as fall 2005, Barker said. Several departments,

notably defense, transportation and interior, began

developing more secure, high-tech ID cards long

before Bush issued the directive, he said. The trend

ultimately could affect private sector workers,

as well.

Experts say the federal government's adoption of

tighter ID card standards could spur more private

businesses to follow suit.Some federal employees

have concerns about the new cards. Colleen M. Kelley,

president of the National Treasury Employees Union,

which represents more than 150,000 federal workers

in 30 agencies, said the proposed standard would

permit agencies to print employees' pay grade and

rank on the new cards, which many workers would

consider an invasion of privacy.

"For example, an agency might seize upon this

technology as a means to track employees as they

move throughout a building," Kelley said in written

comments to NIST last week. "That is troubling,

standing alone. It would be particularly objectionable

if the agency tried to track visits to particular

sites such as the union office, Employee Assistance

Program offices and the inspector general's office.

NIST has gathered comments on the draft standard

from more than 500 entities and individuals but has

not made them public.

/END

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[irishcowboy]

sorry, but you are a bit late with this news.....

this microchip technology has been in use for animals now for about 2 decades.

mike

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Two years?

oh boy....

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no, two decades, that is 20 years.....

mike

[other one]

Rev 13:16-18

16 And he causes all, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free men and the slaves, to be given a mark on their right hand, or on their forehead, 17 and he provides that no one should be able to buy or to sell, except the one who has the mark , either the name of the beast or the number of his name. 18 Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for the number is that of a man; and his number is six hundred and sixty-six.

NASB

Please remember that the mark of the beast is the name or the number of the beast. The verichip is the name and number of the person who is using it, and unless the requirements change to receive one, it is nothing but an electronic social security card

I am not promoting the chip, but don't be so dogmatic about a technology that may or may not be used against those that refuse the Luciferian Oath. The only way to know for sure what the mark is, is to know the beast, and if this chip is truly the mark then the beast is here and we should be finding out who/what that really is....... but that leads to conspiracy talk which is forbidden here.... this place is becoming a real frustration......

[Trust & Obey]

here is one of the  email i subscribe to,

Hi Michael,

Here's your Verichip Update.

Before we get going, I want to let you in on

an awesome web site that has tons and tons of

great fre e audio files on end times prophecy and

every other subject you can imagine...

Go to:

http://server.firefighters.org/

(Search under "Bible Studies" and see

the hundreds and hundreds of messages on

various subjects.)

Here are some you may enjoy:

After the tsunami disaster, many are blaming God.

Here's a great audio recording of a speech

from someone named A.E. Wilder Smith

called "Why does God allow suffering"

http://server.firefighters.org/wilder-smith/35023.mp3

And one from someone named Jon Courson, called

"Where Was God"

http://server.firefighters.org/catalog/1999-2000/01299.mp3

Here's another good one by a guy named Chuch Smith

called, "How Long Til The End"

http://www.mp3bible.org/audio/CS12Most/T2125.mp3

Amen. If you like Pastor Chuck and Jon then you can listen to KWVE streaming audio here.

The Firefighters for Christ website is AWESOME. One of my absolute favorite teachers is Pastor Bob Hoekstra.. check out his studies.. you'll love them. For me, his teaching demonstrates the grace of God like no other I've heard.'

http://www.ffmp3.com/

Go to "Audio Sermons/Topical/Bob Hoekstra"

Plus, there are tons of other messages from great Pastors. The late Ray Stedman comes to mind. Jon Courson is one of my favorites... God has given him a remarkable gift of illustration.

BTW, Pastor Chuck has a complete "Thruough the Bible" series online at this link. You can find A.E Wilder Smith on that website, too.

Pastor Jon Courson has his "through the Bible" series at this link.

Another great resource I recommend is Jon Courson's New Testament Application Commentary found here.

[irishcowboy]

if we look back in history, we will find that God has always given plenty of notice prior to passing judgement upon the land(people).....

Ninivah had notice, they repented, for a time, and then later went back to their ways and God passed Judgement upon them....

Israel, had notice after notice after notice, and God passed judgement upon them several times, some times as an entire nation, other times just one branch of the family....

Noah, gave 120 years of notice prior to God passing judgement, actually God had already passed judgement upon the entire world, and Noah was passing it on, but there was no one that would heed the message....

we are receiving notice these days...... so when will God get tired of talking to us, telling us what we are doing is wrong.... when will he stop badgering us to turn from our evil ways and then just pass the sentence upon us...... we have received many warnings, and we do not heed them.... we are heading down the paths of death.... God has given us warnings and we ignore them, pass them off as anything but from God....

Israel is a nation, as fortold....... the signs are in place, as has been fortold, the world is right where the Lord said it would be..... God can have us called home at any second..... and we are ignoring the call, we would rather live for a moment in comfort and peace and in our own ways, then have life abundantly.... have our friends, neighbors and co-workers with us through- out eternity......

God is lettign us know the time is drawing to a close...... and we are ignoring it.

do not be deceived..

[Gerioke]

Rev 13:16-18

16 And he causes all, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free men and the slaves, to be given a mark on their right hand, or on their forehead, 17 and he provides that no one should be able to buy or to sell, except the one who has the mark , either the name of the beast or the number of his name. 18 Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for the number is that of a man; and his number is six hundred and sixty-six.

NASB

Please remember that the mark of the beast is the name or the number of the beast. The verichip is the name and number of the person who is using it, and unless the requirements change to receive one, it is nothing but an electronic social security card

I am not promoting the chip, but don't be so dogmatic about a technology that may or may not be used against those that refuse the Luciferian Oath. The only way to know for sure what the mark is, is to know the beast, and if this chip is truly the mark then the beast is here and we should be finding out who/what that really is....... but that leads to conspiracy talk which is forbidden here.... this place is becoming a real frustration......

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How right you are. Mammon is out in full force and we are to be silent.