It most certainly is…..

[Not me]

Colossians 2:23 (NASB20)
These are matters which do have the appearance of wisdom in self-made religion and humility and severe treatment of the body, but are of no value against fleshly indulgence.

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‘appearance of wisdom …… but no value against fleshy indulgence’

Everything that has no value against fleshy indulgences is that that is being spoken against as having the ‘appearance of wisdom’… Meaning that before God it is of no value, man might value it, but before God it is useless…. The reason being as scripture puts forth, it can do nothing to overcome fleshy indulgences…… Or in other words only that which can overcome sin has any standing before God, all else is but man building castles in the air to his own vanity…. 

If this is a true and correct statement, it would be the most pressing of matters to find out what it was exactly that was being spoken of, as that which did have the power to overcome fleshy indulgences…..

That would be pointing back to the statement; ‘if you have died… why?…’

For the end of all things is one’s death in Christ, when this truth is seen, all else becomes as it were castles in the air, that which has no value against fleshy indulgences… For this is the line in the sand when it comes to fleshy indulgences, one having died… For a dead man has no fleshy indulgences, they may be all around him, screaming in his ear but being how he is dead they are powerless over him…

This is the great truth of faith concerning fleshy indulgences, one’s death in Christ… Scripture says faith is that that overcomes, blessed is the heart that sees it most certainly is…

In His love, Not me 

[Starise]

The only value I see which can destroy the flesh is the Spirit living inside of me and my willingness to obstain from it. My willingness is of no consequence if the Spirit isn't working in me 

Counseling, self help programs and all the rest of it are seeking to change a man from the outside in. God must do the changing.

Those slogans are a lie- " You are enough""You can do it" . No you can't.

 

 

 

[Not me]

9 minutes ago, Rosie1jack2pauline3 said:

The sanctifying work of Christ through us, he deals with our flesh, .we can’t, that is what happens when we are birthed into Christ, ..it’s a journey ,it’s a hard and painful one is my experience, I thought I was dying at one point, talk about the battle with the spirit and the flesh...it’s a real living battle from within, once we are birthed .thank God he’s got me under control, in Jesus Name, Amen!!.🙏

I  still  have moments in the flesh, thank God  they are coming less and less.

God will always overcome our flesh, all in his timing...his ways are perfect..he is the one who trains us, we cannot train ourselves.

Hello, it does sound like you are on your course, in the school of Christ, as He is teaching you inwardly….. This is how all true knowledge of Him comes, through a living knowledge of Him….

As I know you will, keep pressing in, for freedom from sin is for all believer’s….. It being in the truth;

‘he that has died is freed from sin’..

But knowing this truth needs to be understood inwardly as a light in the heart, for until then it won’t make much sense and be a frustration…. So keep pressing into this inwardly knowing of Him, and He Himself, as He is doing, will teach all things… 

Be blessed in that wonderful relationship with Him you have…

A fellow follower of His, Not me 

[Not me]

18 minutes ago, Starise said:

The only value I see which can destroy the flesh is the Spirit living inside of me and my willingness to obstain from it. My willingness is of no consequence if the Spirit isn't working in me 

Counseling, self help programs and all the rest of it are seeking to change a man from the outside in. God must do the changing.

Those slogans are a lie- " You are enough""You can do it" . No you can't.

 

It is true, only the Life of Christ in one can overcome the flesh…. Be blessed in the experiencing…..

Unto Him be our all, Not me 

Edited May 14, 2022 by Not me