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...we don't execute people for adultry,  but correct me if I'm wrong, doesn't the middle eastern countries and others still execute for this?

I think Jesus was not questioning stoning as a punisment in itself, but he was pointing out that the "reason" for it was wrong.  Did that make sense?

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Could you clarify what you're asking? Are you saying that Christ was saying not to stone someone for adultery? I guess I don't get what you're getting at.

In Christ,

Eric

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It is my understanding that if a congregation was to administer justice by stoning a person, it was done in this way:

The accused might have been blindfolded or veiled in some way.

Each person in the group involved in the stoning would throw one stone about the size of a potato.

This way none of the group would know which stone inflicted the fatal wound.

This was serious business, and not carried out on a frivolous whim. There had to be a trial with at least 2 credible witnesses.


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the first witness---in Stephens stoning---pushed his naked body off of a 9 foot scaffold....

his clothes were dropped at sauls feet---- :b: (acts 7:58-59)

after his body hit the ground---the 2nd witness dropped a large stone, on his head or chest----and the rest of the people threw stones at him....

footnote in study bible......

now, apparently---after being pushed off this scaffold, and his head pummelled, what the


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What do you think about the stoning method of execution? Do you think God approves of it or does He just acknowledge its existence?

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T & O,

Stoning is no doubt a very brutal death but where the scripture speaks of stoning it speaks in plain terms. I don't see that God "acknowledged" stoning. He was giving His people His law...had He wanted beheading (for example) to be the means of execution He would have said so.

I would have to say, then, that not only did God approve of it, he ordered it. If we struggle to understand that in light of "God's Love" then how are we to comprehend Hell? Surely no torment is greater. Perhaps we misunderstand God's love...who it is given to, what it entails. Perhaps we compartmentalize God, forgetting that He is One...ie. being loving in no way deminishes His Righteous Justice and Judgement. I don't know.

Before a slew of people jump on me, though, reminding me that we live in the age of Grace and throw hypothetical/rhetorical questions at me ad infinitum like "So you think we should stone people?"...allow me to say that I tend to be anti-capital punishment. It is plain, however, that in that instance (Israel receiving the Law) God ordered executions by stoning. I must accept that as Just and Right.

Just my two cents.

In Christ,

Eric

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If the Ten Conmmandments say we should not kill, how come God told pppl in the OT to kill? ;)


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I used to beleive that they crime the criminal committed like murder or the "others" is the way they should be punnished.  But, that would be torture.  I cannot stand torture, watching it or hearing about it makes me SO MAD.  As far as the stoning thing, that is just sick.  If the person was to be executed, just shoot them in the head.  Don't torture the person.  Criminals are people too.  Just did really bad thing.  I think all capitol punnishment with execution should be leathal injection.  Frying a person in the chair is nasty, hanging is nasty and definetly stoning is nasty.

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...we don't execute people for adultry,

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What do you think about the stoning method of execution? Do you think God approves of it or does He just acknowledge its existence?

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T & O,

Stoning is no doubt a very brutal death but where the scripture speaks of stoning it speaks in plain terms. I don't see that God "acknowledged" stoning. He was giving His people His law...had He wanted beheading (for example) to be the means of execution He would have said so.

I would have to say, then, that not only did God approve of it, he ordered it. If we struggle to understand that in light of "God's Love" then how are we to comprehend Hell? Surely no torment is greater. Perhaps we misunderstand God's love...who it is given to, what it entails. Perhaps we compartmentalize God, forgetting that He is One...ie. being loving in no way deminishes His Righteous Justice and Judgement. I don't know.

Before a slew of people jump on me, though, reminding me that we live in the age of Grace and throw hypothetical/rhetorical questions at me ad infinitum like "So you think we should stone people?"...allow me to say that I tend to be anti-capital punishment. It is plain, however, that in that instance (Israel receiving the Law) God ordered executions by stoning. I must accept that as Just and Right.

Just my two cents.

In Christ,

Eric

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If the Ten Conmmandments say we should not kill, how come God told pppl in the OT to kill? :thumbsup:

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The "do not kill" is better translated "do not murder." The idea is killing for personal reasons between people. The "government" and/or collective body has always had the responsibility for executing those who commit capital offenses.


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I think stoning was the preferred method of execution because when one broke the law, they were considered unclean, and not to be touched. :noidea:


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I think stoning was the preferred method of execution because when one broke the law, they were considered unclean, and not to be touched.  :P

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:P Duh on me...ever have one of those days when you see an answer to a question and think "geez that was easy and to the point" now I get it :P Well today is one of those days...tomorrow probably will be too. :noidea:

Never has two line post made so much sense :P

Love and Blessings,

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The death penalty in the Bible is much older than the giving of the Law. God specifically instituted the death penalty on the day Noah came out of the Ark...

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Yes, I am aware of that. However, stoning specifically (which is the topic at hand) is not commanded to Noah. This is why I have referrenced it to the giving of the Law to Israel.

...the so-called "age of Grace", which is not even a scriptural term I remind everyone...

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I lose you here. Are you denying such a thing as an "age of Grace" on the grounds that it is an extra-Biblical term? Do you, then, deny all other doctrines with extra-Biblical titles? Some clarification of what you mean and how it applies to this topic would be helpful.

In Christ,

Eric

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