R. Hartono Posted July 31, 2022 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 771 Topics Per Day: 0.34 Content Count: 6,938 Content Per Day: 3.06 Reputation: 1,979 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/15/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted July 31, 2022 (edited) Ezekiel 10 18 Then the glory of the Lord departed from over the threshold of the temple and stopped above the cherubim. God had departed from the temple in Jerusalem because the Hebrew were rebellious people. Ezekiel 12 8 In the morning the word of the Lord came to me: 9 “Son of man, did not the Israelites, that rebellious people, ask you, ‘What are you doing?’ Circumcision, Sabbath, eating clean meat and offerings animal sacrifices for sin atonement did not and never make people holy. Nobody becomes purified and holy by the sacrificed crucifixion of Lord Jesus as the Lamb of God either. Luke 13:5.... unless you repent you will all perish. Unless people repent and stop sinning how can the blood of Jesus purify mankind to become holy ??? God therefore allowed destruction and genocide to Israel at 70AD that they may perish (God has proven that He was not bluffing) and gentile kingdoms gangbang Jerusalem for almost 2000 years. Edited January 7 by R. Hartono Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Who me Posted August 2, 2022 Group: Royal Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 17 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,300 Content Per Day: 1.72 Reputation: 1,685 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/27/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted August 2, 2022 On 7/31/2022 at 8:21 AM, R. Hartono said: Circumcision, eating clean meat and offerings animal sacrifices for sin atonement did not and never make people holy. No it is clear that even those in the OT had to have faith in God, that they followed the rituals etc motivated by their faith and love for God. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alive Posted August 2, 2022 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 22 Topic Count: 194 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 11,053 Content Per Day: 6.54 Reputation: 9,015 Days Won: 36 Joined: 09/12/2019 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/09/1956 Share Posted August 2, 2022 Is. 1:11 (NAS20S) “ What are your many sacrifices to Me?” Says the LORD. “I have had enough of burnt offerings of rams And the fat of fattened cattle; And I take no pleasure in the blood of bulls, lambs, or goats. Heb. 10:4 (NAS20S) For it is impossible for the blood of bulls and goats to take away sins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Hartono Posted August 12, 2022 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 771 Topics Per Day: 0.34 Content Count: 6,938 Content Per Day: 3.06 Reputation: 1,979 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/15/2018 Status: Offline Author Share Posted August 12, 2022 On 8/2/2022 at 9:12 PM, Alive said: Heb. 10:4 (NAS20S) For it is impossible for the blood of bulls and goats to take away sins. Not even the blood of Jesus can purify sins if people do not repent from all sins and wickedness of hearts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobie_ Posted August 13, 2022 Group: Seventh Day Adventist Followers: 6 Topic Count: 11 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,786 Content Per Day: 0.33 Reputation: 717 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/24/2009 Status: Offline Share Posted August 13, 2022 On 7/31/2022 at 3:21 AM, R. Hartono said: Ezekiel 10 18 Then the glory of the Lord departed from over the threshold of the temple and stopped above the cherubim. God had departed from the temple in Jerusalem because the Hebrew were rebellious people. Ezekiel 12 8 In the morning the word of the Lord came to me: 9 “Son of man, did not the Israelites, that rebellious people, ask you, ‘What are you doing?’ Circumcision, Sabbath, eating clean meat and offerings animal sacrifices for sin atonement did not and never make people holy. Nobody becomes purified and holy by the sacrificed crucifixion of Lord Jesus as the Lamb of God either. Luke 13:5.... unless you repent you will all perish. Unless people repent and stop sinning how can mankind become holy ??? God therefore allowed destruction and genocide to Israel at 70AD and gentile kingdoms gangbang Jerusalem for almost 2000 years. How do you read this text... Isaiah 66:22-24 King James Version 22 For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the Lord, so shall your seed and your name remain. 23 And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the Lord. 24 And they shall go forth, and look upon the carcases of the men that have transgressed against me: for their worm shall not die, neither shall their fire be quenched; and they shall be an abhorring unto all flesh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Hartono Posted August 14, 2022 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 771 Topics Per Day: 0.34 Content Count: 6,938 Content Per Day: 3.06 Reputation: 1,979 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/15/2018 Status: Offline Author Share Posted August 14, 2022 20 hours ago, Hobie_ said: How do you read this text... Isaiah 66:22-24 King James Version 22 For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the Lord, so shall your seed and your name remain. 23 And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the Lord. 24 And they shall go forth, and look upon the carcases of the men that have transgressed against me: for their worm shall not die, neither shall their fire be quenched; and they shall be an abhorring unto all flesh. Sabbath was given to teach obedience only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobie_ Posted August 14, 2022 Group: Seventh Day Adventist Followers: 6 Topic Count: 11 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,786 Content Per Day: 0.33 Reputation: 717 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/24/2009 Status: Offline Share Posted August 14, 2022 Genesis 2:3 And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made. The word Sabbath comes from a Hebrew word that means “to rest from labor.” God not only blessed it but sanctified it and thus is holy which means something that is sacred or dedicated to God. So it is not just to "teach obedience", it is sacred and for those who follow God how you show your love for Him by keeping the Sabbath day holy not just say you do then turn away to your own ways and desires. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Hartono Posted August 15, 2022 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 771 Topics Per Day: 0.34 Content Count: 6,938 Content Per Day: 3.06 Reputation: 1,979 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/15/2018 Status: Offline Author Share Posted August 15, 2022 (edited) 21 hours ago, Hobie_ said: Genesis 2:3 And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made. The word Sabbath comes from a Hebrew word that means “to rest from labor.” God not only blessed it but sanctified it and thus is holy which means something that is sacred or dedicated to God. So it is not just to "teach obedience", it is sacred and for those who follow God how you show your love for Him by keeping the Sabbath day holy not just say you do then turn away to your own ways and desires. Christians rest in Sabbath Holy Spirit everyday not on seventh day and not their bodies. Otherwise they wont be able to stop lust and wickedness and simply parroting verses on Sabbath. See what happens at the end of Millenium, Sabbath did not make people holy. Edited August 15, 2022 by R. Hartono Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobie_ Posted August 15, 2022 Group: Seventh Day Adventist Followers: 6 Topic Count: 11 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,786 Content Per Day: 0.33 Reputation: 717 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/24/2009 Status: Offline Share Posted August 15, 2022 (edited) 7 hours ago, R. Hartono said: Christians rest in Sabbath Holy Spirit everyday not on seventh day and not their bodies. Otherwise they wont be able to stop lust and wickedness and simply parroting verses on Sabbath. See what happens at the end of Millenium, Sabbath did not make people holy. Yet this denies what was written with Gods own finger claiming they follow a "spirit" which cannot be of God... Exodus 31:18 And he gave unto Moses, when he had made an end of communing with him upon mount Sinai, two tables of testimony, tables of stone, written with the finger of God. Edited August 15, 2022 by Hobie_ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Hartono Posted August 15, 2022 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 771 Topics Per Day: 0.34 Content Count: 6,938 Content Per Day: 3.06 Reputation: 1,979 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/15/2018 Status: Offline Author Share Posted August 15, 2022 Just now, Hobie_ said: Yet it denies what was written with Gods own finger claiming they follow a "spirit" ... Exodus 31:18 And he gave unto Moses, when he had made an end of communing with him upon mount Sinai, two tables of testimony, tables of stone, written with the finger of God. Paul warned gentiles church in Colossians about some Jews who tried to force them to follow sabbath and other Jews festivals and clean food. Col 2:16 Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day. Im not banning any people to follow sabbath, its just about history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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