David1701 Posted October 31, 2022 Group: Royal Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 15 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 5,731 Content Per Day: 3.51 Reputation: 3,524 Days Won: 12 Joined: 11/27/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted October 31, 2022 On 10/29/2022 at 1:23 AM, The Barbarian said: Iraq was once a lush farmland of crops and gardens. Now, it's a desert. Humans made it so. https://www.chegg.com/learn/biology/introduction-to-biology/salinization-of-soil We've known for thousands of years that man can make great changes to climate. It's just that today, we can do it far more extensively than pre-industrial man could. Salinisation of soil, whilst real and damaging, is not climate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Barbarian Posted November 1, 2022 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 27 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 5,088 Content Per Day: 0.67 Reputation: 974 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/20/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted November 1, 2022 3 hours ago, David1701 said: Salinisation of soil, whilst real and damaging, is not climate. Iraq is hotter, drier, and far less fertile than it was thousands of years ago. That's a major climate change, driven by humans. Climate noun the composite or generally prevailing weather conditions of a region, as temperature, air pressure, humidity, precipitation, sunshine, cloudiness, and winds, throughout the year, averaged over a series of years. https://www.dictionary.com/browse/climate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David1701 Posted November 1, 2022 Group: Royal Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 15 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 5,731 Content Per Day: 3.51 Reputation: 3,524 Days Won: 12 Joined: 11/27/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted November 1, 2022 (edited) 13 hours ago, The Barbarian said: Iraq is hotter, drier, and far less fertile than it was thousands of years ago. That's a major climate change, driven by humans. Climate noun the composite or generally prevailing weather conditions of a region, as temperature, air pressure, humidity, precipitation, sunshine, cloudiness, and winds, throughout the year, averaged over a series of years. https://www.dictionary.com/browse/climate Prove that Iraq's changed condition is due to the physical effects of human activity and not other factors. I won't hold my breath... Edited November 1, 2022 by David1701 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Barbarian Posted November 1, 2022 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 27 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 5,088 Content Per Day: 0.67 Reputation: 974 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/20/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted November 1, 2022 1 hour ago, David1701 said: Prove that Iraq's changed condition is due to the physical effects of human activity and not other factors. I won't hold my breath... https://www.readkong.com/page/desertification-and-salinization-of-the-mesopotamian-plain-7170048 Most of the Mesopotamian Plain is covered by Quaternary sediments among which the flood plain sediments of the Tigris and Euphrates rivers are the most dominant parts. Aeolian sediments; however, also cover considerable areas at different parts of the plain in forms of sand dunes, sand sheets and Nebkhas. The dunes are the most common form and they are creeping as well as sand sheets in vast areas causing desertification. The main reasons causing this is climate change, abandoning of agricultural areas. Salinization is another significant problem in the plain whereby the affected areas are growing in size and the concentration of the salt in the soil, as well as the groundwater is increasing rapidly. The increase in salinization is due to miss-management of water resources, and the increasing salinity of the surface and ground water which due to the use of irrigation water supplied from Al-Tharthar Depression (lake) and the Main Outfall Drain. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/340088205_Desertification_and_Salinization_of_the_Mesopotamian_Plain_A_Critical_Review Irrigation that does not flush out the soil, will accumulate salt. Plants cease to grow, and semi-arid land becomes desert. The lack of water and plants means the climate gets hotter, accelerating the decline. Happened in Italy, too. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deforestation_during_the_Roman_period Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Hartono Posted November 2, 2022 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 777 Topics Per Day: 0.34 Content Count: 6,955 Content Per Day: 3.05 Reputation: 1,985 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/15/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted November 2, 2022 (edited) On 11/1/2022 at 8:17 AM, The Barbarian said: Iraq is hotter, drier, and far less fertile than it was thousands of years ago. That's a major climate change, driven by humans. Climate noun the composite or generally prevailing weather conditions of a region, as temperature, air pressure, humidity, precipitation, sunshine, cloudiness, and winds, throughout the year, averaged over a series of years. https://www.dictionary.com/browse/climate Revelation 11:18 ...and should punish those who destroys the earth. @Space_Karen Edited November 2, 2022 by R. Hartono Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not of the World Posted November 2, 2022 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 86 Topics Per Day: 0.15 Content Count: 1,060 Content Per Day: 1.82 Reputation: 456 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/12/2022 Status: Offline Share Posted November 2, 2022 The world is telling everyone that they are causing the climate to change and, incredibly, faithful Christians believe the world. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick-Parker Posted November 2, 2022 Group: Royal Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 200 Topics Per Day: 0.23 Content Count: 4,273 Content Per Day: 4.85 Reputation: 1,855 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/17/2021 Status: Offline Birthday: 06/03/1955 Share Posted November 2, 2022 2 hours ago, Not of the World said: The world is telling everyone that they are causing the climate to change and, incredibly, faithful Christians believe the world. Not me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
servant4christ Posted November 2, 2022 Group: Junior Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 88 Content Per Day: 0.13 Reputation: 40 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/05/2022 Status: Offline Share Posted November 2, 2022 4 hours ago, Not of the World said: The world is telling everyone that they are causing the climate to change and, incredibly, faithful Christians believe the world. What evidence would you use to claim that climate change is NOT anthropogenic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David1701 Posted November 2, 2022 Group: Royal Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 15 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 5,731 Content Per Day: 3.51 Reputation: 3,524 Days Won: 12 Joined: 11/27/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted November 2, 2022 5 hours ago, Not of the World said: The world is telling everyone that they are causing the climate to change and, incredibly, faithful Christians believe the world. Not I. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not of the World Posted November 2, 2022 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 86 Topics Per Day: 0.15 Content Count: 1,060 Content Per Day: 1.82 Reputation: 456 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/12/2022 Status: Offline Share Posted November 2, 2022 1 hour ago, servant4christ said: What evidence would you use to claim that climate change is NOT anthropogenic? The world telling us it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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