Omegaman 3.0 Posted November 10, 2022 Group: Graduated to Heaven Followers: 57 Topic Count: 1,546 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 10,320 Content Per Day: 1.41 Reputation: 12,323 Days Won: 9 Joined: 04/15/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/05/1951 Share Posted November 10, 2022 19 minutes ago, missmuffet said: This is not the first post that has caused controversy and conflict. That is the problem with Worthy there is no supervision. It is a free for all. People can post what they want to post. People take advantage of that and we will get all kinds of inappropriate postings. True, it is under-supervised, but not so much that it miss this: Quote The homosexual would like you to believe that. Scientific evidence shows otherwise. It is a choice. You like to instigate conflict which would make you a troll. Is name calling and accusation the best way to respond to people? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starise Posted November 10, 2022 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 13 Topic Count: 279 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 13,126 Content Per Day: 9.66 Reputation: 13,666 Days Won: 149 Joined: 08/26/2020 Status: Offline Share Posted November 10, 2022 I believe there are a lot of believers with questions like this, much of it I credit to what some apostate churches are teaching along with what modern society is saying about it. If we look at what the bible says though, it says homosexuality is a sin among a list of other things that are sins, so who do we believe here? The 'experts' that go around saying it's all genetic, and therefore it can't be a sin because they can't help it OR do we believe what the bible says? Everything else should be irrelevant to an accurate understanding of the bible which comes first for the Christian when it comes to any matters of this nature, so in that light, the question really doesn't need to be asked most of the time, if the question is, "Is this wrong?" OTOH if we look at genetic disposition there is probably an argument to be made that some people might be pre disposed to it more than others are, but this doesn't let anyone off the hook so far as it being a sin. In fact the bible makes no concessions for pre disposition at all. I could be pre disposed to anything that's a sin, but it doesn't let me off the hook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegaman 3.0 Posted November 10, 2022 Group: Graduated to Heaven Followers: 57 Topic Count: 1,546 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 10,320 Content Per Day: 1.41 Reputation: 12,323 Days Won: 9 Joined: 04/15/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/05/1951 Share Posted November 10, 2022 4 hours ago, JohnR7 said: Does anyone know what it means to be: "transgender"? It happens in 0ne out of 500, and they look like women, but they have a male organ that in some cases can produce a baby. I don't think that is what it means: Quote transgender adjective trans·gen·der tran(t)s-ˈjen-dər tranz- : of, relating to, or being a person whose gender identity differs from the sex the person had or was identified as having at birth especially : of, relating to, or being a person whose gender identity is opposite the sex the person had or was identified as having at birth - Merriam-Webster It seems to be a person of either gender, who thinks they are of a different gender, than there body indicates, that may or may not have anything to do with their general appearance. I would say yes, body parts may figure in, but it is not just external organs. A uterus does not show, and I think you need one of those, and ovaries to successfully get pregnant and grow a baby. Men don't have those. There are also chromosomes. A pair of X and Y chromosomes (XY) results in a male, and a pair of X and X chromosomes (XX) results in a female. Chromosomes don't care about how you "identify" or how you feel. They are reflections of biological reality. "Identity" as an indicator of reality, is bizarre. If I identify as a car or as a tree, does that make it true? If so, then I am not an athletic, brilliant, wise and rich guy! All of that being said, this is not the topic! Birth defects as a root of homosexuality is. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnR7 Posted November 10, 2022 Group: Royal Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 49 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2,907 Content Per Day: 1.28 Reputation: 614 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/03/2018 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/06/1952 Share Posted November 10, 2022 Just now, Omegaman 3.0 said: I don't think that is what it means: Perhaps you are thinking of transexual which is different. Transgender is an term for persons whose gender identity, gender expression or behavior does not conform to that typically associated with their sex at birth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marathoner Posted November 10, 2022 Group: Royal Member Followers: 16 Topic Count: 73 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 10,331 Content Per Day: 7.11 Reputation: 13,369 Days Won: 99 Joined: 05/24/2020 Status: Offline Share Posted November 10, 2022 12 hours ago, Not of the World said: I believe some are "born" gay. Is it possible that such an unnatural desire is, in some cases, a birth defect just like being born with only one arm is a birth defect? From the empirical viewpoint, no. There isn't a gene associated with homosexuality, my friend. I'm aware of all manner of conjecture where this is concerned, but that's all it is: conjecture. From hormonal conditions in the womb to how one is reared from birth, it's guesswork. Nothing has been proven. As far as homosexuality becoming an affliction for some, there's no question about that. It is indeed. I say let the Lord be the judge, and we do all that we can for those who are afflicted in such a way. Love our neighbor as ourselves and condemn no one. Vengeance belongs to the Lord. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegaman 3.0 Posted November 10, 2022 Group: Graduated to Heaven Followers: 57 Topic Count: 1,546 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 10,320 Content Per Day: 1.41 Reputation: 12,323 Days Won: 9 Joined: 04/15/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/05/1951 Share Posted November 10, 2022 11 minutes ago, JohnR7 said: Perhaps you are thinking of transexual which is different. Transgender is an term for persons whose gender identity, gender expression or behavior does not conform to that typically associated with their sex at birth. I don't know John, I am not an expert in these things, that is why I quoted Merriam-Webster! Quote of, relating to, or being a person whose gender identity differs from the sex the person had or was identified as having at birth However, this is STILL not the topic! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnR7 Posted November 10, 2022 Group: Royal Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 49 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2,907 Content Per Day: 1.28 Reputation: 614 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/03/2018 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/06/1952 Share Posted November 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Omegaman 3.0 said: I don't know John, I am not an expert in these things, that is why I quoted Merriam-Webster! However, this is STILL not the topic! It can be whatever you want it to be. I do not care, it is not my problem. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegaman 3.0 Posted November 10, 2022 Group: Graduated to Heaven Followers: 57 Topic Count: 1,546 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 10,320 Content Per Day: 1.41 Reputation: 12,323 Days Won: 9 Joined: 04/15/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/05/1951 Share Posted November 10, 2022 1 minute ago, JohnR7 said: It can be whatever you want it to be. I do not care, it is not my problem. Come on John, I did not choose the topic, the OP did! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnR7 Posted November 10, 2022 Group: Royal Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 49 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2,907 Content Per Day: 1.28 Reputation: 614 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/03/2018 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/06/1952 Share Posted November 10, 2022 34 minutes ago, Starise said: it says homosexuality is a sin The real problem is when people try to justify themselves. God requires us to be humble before Him. Luke 18:13 But the tax collector stood at a distance, unwilling even to lift up his eyes to heaven. Instead, he beat his breast and said, ‘God, have mercy on me, a sinner!’ 14I tell you, this man, rather than the Pharisee, went home justified. For everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, but the one who humbles himself will be exalted.” They want us to give them approval, and we cannot do that. So in some cases the problem is not the actual sin but our attitude toward sin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not of the World Posted November 10, 2022 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 86 Topics Per Day: 0.15 Content Count: 1,060 Content Per Day: 1.82 Reputation: 456 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/12/2022 Status: Offline Author Share Posted November 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Walter Goraj jr said: Sin defect. There's hope for the homosexual as there is hope for the atheist. I believe you summed it up quite succinctly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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