BillyBOC Posted November 14, 2022 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 19 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 14 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/05/2022 Status: Offline Share Posted November 14, 2022 It is stated that God is not the author of confusion but the author of peace as in all the churches of the saints, then why are there so many denominations with so many different beliefs and doctrines and outright confusion, where is the peace and understanding? We see this in 1 Corinthians 14:33 and then we see in 2 Timothy 3:16-17 that scripture is profitable doctrine, correction, study and that is that the man of God may be perfect. We see in Matthew 4:4 that the Word that proceed out of the mouth of God feeds us and we see that that word is the scriptures today and that that is all we need according to 2 Timothy 3:16-17. Then in John 14:26 we see that the Holy Ghost will teach you everything, then again, why are there so many conflicting doctrines, so many arguments and meaningful but misleading and sometimes purely false doctrines and statements, so many minor and major points of confusion in the Body of Christ, why is the Bride of Christ so questionable today? Just thinking out loud! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael37 Posted November 14, 2022 Group: Servant Followers: 21 Topic Count: 241 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 6,943 Content Per Day: 3.27 Reputation: 4,867 Days Won: 2 Joined: 07/05/2018 Status: Online Birthday: 09/23/1954 Share Posted November 14, 2022 4 minutes ago, BillyBOC said: It is stated that God is not the author of confusion but the author of peace as in all the churches of the saints, then why are there so many denominations with so many different beliefs and doctrines and outright confusion, where is the peace and understanding? We see this in 1 Corinthians 14:33 and then we see in 2 Timothy 3:16-17 that scripture is profitable doctrine, correction, study and that is that the man of God may be perfect. We see in Matthew 4:4 that the Word that proceed out of the mouth of God feeds us and we see that that word is the scriptures today and that that is all we need according to 2 Timothy 3:16-17. Then in John 14:26 we see that the Holy Ghost will teach you everything, then again, why are there so many conflicting doctrines, so many arguments and meaningful but misleading and sometimes purely false doctrines and statements, so many minor and major points of confusion in the Body of Christ, why is the Bride of Christ so questionable today? Just thinking out loud! The usual culprits for human failures are the world, the flesh, and the devil. The antidote is to maintain the fruit of the Spirit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyBOC Posted November 14, 2022 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 19 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 14 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/05/2022 Status: Offline Author Share Posted November 14, 2022 2 hours ago, Michael37 said: The usual culprits for human failures are the world, the flesh, and the devil. The antidote is to maintain the fruit of the Spirit. Thank you Michael37, yes I agree with: Galatians 5:22-23 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, 23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. But we see that when it comes to the flesh then in the same book the answer is given and yes I am thankful to God for this truth: Galatians 5:16 This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. Then if we look at the next verse it is clear that we who are the Churches of the Saints are separate of the world: John 17:16 They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world. Then we see the verse in 1 Corinthians that state the obvious: 1 Corinthians 14:33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints. And this then brings me back to the question, why so many denominations, doctrines, arguments etc. in the “body of Christ” today, yes in inverted commas because if we read the above then our teachers in our churches should all agree with scripture and we the people are be those faltering but not our teachers and not at the rate we see today, well at least not according to the Bible, for if they do it is by choice. Hebrews 11:25 Choosing rather to suffer affliction with the people of God, than to enjoy the pleasures of sin for a season; Again out loud! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael37 Posted November 14, 2022 Group: Servant Followers: 21 Topic Count: 241 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 6,943 Content Per Day: 3.27 Reputation: 4,867 Days Won: 2 Joined: 07/05/2018 Status: Online Birthday: 09/23/1954 Share Posted November 14, 2022 1 hour ago, BillyBOC said: Thank you Michael37, yes I agree with: Galatians 5:22-23 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, 23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. But we see that when it comes to the flesh then in the same book the answer is given and yes I am thankful to God for this truth: Galatians 5:16 This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. Then if we look at the next verse it is clear that we who are the Churches of the Saints are separate of the world: John 17:16 They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world. Then we see the verse in 1 Corinthians that state the obvious: 1 Corinthians 14:33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints. And this then brings me back to the question, why so many denominations, doctrines, arguments etc. in the “body of Christ” today, yes in inverted commas because if we read the above then our teachers in our churches should all agree with scripture and we the people are be those faltering but not our teachers and not at the rate we see today, well at least not according to the Bible, for if they do it is by choice. Hebrews 11:25 Choosing rather to suffer affliction with the people of God, than to enjoy the pleasures of sin for a season; Again out loud! I would be very wary of anyone who claimed to be or was acclaimed to be infallible. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Who me Posted November 14, 2022 Group: Royal Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 17 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,300 Content Per Day: 1.72 Reputation: 1,685 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/27/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted November 14, 2022 3 hours ago, BillyBOC said: why so many denominations, doctrines, arguments etc. in the “body of Christ Have you investigated the reasons for the different denominations? Why is there a Roman Catholic Church, a Lutheran Church, Calvanistic/Presbyterian churches, Methodist church? Can you say why these churches came into being? Have you done the same investigation in to the history of different theolo7 disputes? In the history of these subj3cts you will find answers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyBOC Posted November 14, 2022 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 19 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 14 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/05/2022 Status: Offline Author Share Posted November 14, 2022 4 hours ago, Michael37 said: I would be very wary of anyone who claimed to be or was acclaimed to be infallible. Nobody is claiming infallibility at all, the question is why so much infighting, discord, false and questionable doctrine, why all the confusion? Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; And the help is available in all the other verses quoted, then why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyBOC Posted November 14, 2022 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 19 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 14 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/05/2022 Status: Offline Author Share Posted November 14, 2022 2 hours ago, Who me said: Have you investigated the reasons for the different denominations? Why is there a Roman Catholic Church, a Lutheran Church, Calvanistic/Presbyterian churches, Methodist church? Can you say why these churches came into being? Have you done the same investigation in to the history of different theolo7 disputes? In the history of these subj3cts you will find answers. Yes, and nearly all lead back to the RCC and CC today and all have one tenet rooted in the RCC/CC and the one tenet you have to adhere to to be a Christian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billiards Ball Posted November 14, 2022 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 5 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,502 Content Per Day: 0.66 Reputation: 662 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/05/2018 Status: Offline Share Posted November 14, 2022 10 hours ago, BillyBOC said: It is stated that God is not the author of confusion but the author of peace as in all the churches of the saints, then why are there so many denominations with so many different beliefs and doctrines and outright confusion, where is the peace and understanding? We see this in 1 Corinthians 14:33 and then we see in 2 Timothy 3:16-17 that scripture is profitable doctrine, correction, study and that is that the man of God may be perfect. We see in Matthew 4:4 that the Word that proceed out of the mouth of God feeds us and we see that that word is the scriptures today and that that is all we need according to 2 Timothy 3:16-17. Then in John 14:26 we see that the Holy Ghost will teach you everything, then again, why are there so many conflicting doctrines, so many arguments and meaningful but misleading and sometimes purely false doctrines and statements, so many minor and major points of confusion in the Body of Christ, why is the Bride of Christ so questionable today? Just thinking out loud! Because not all the "churches" are full of "saints". Satan creates entire false churches and cults--these are described in the scriptures very well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted November 14, 2022 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,991 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,689 Content Per Day: 11.81 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted November 14, 2022 12 hours ago, BillyBOC said: It is stated that God is not the author of confusion but the author of peace as in all the churches of the saints, then why are there so many denominations with so many different beliefs and doctrines and outright confusion, where is the peace and understanding? We see this in 1 Corinthians 14:33 and then we see in 2 Timothy 3:16-17 that scripture is profitable doctrine, correction, study and that is that the man of God may be perfect. We see in Matthew 4:4 that the Word that proceed out of the mouth of God feeds us and we see that that word is the scriptures today and that that is all we need according to 2 Timothy 3:16-17. Then in John 14:26 we see that the Holy Ghost will teach you everything, then again, why are there so many conflicting doctrines, so many arguments and meaningful but misleading and sometimes purely false doctrines and statements, so many minor and major points of confusion in the Body of Christ, why is the Bride of Christ so questionable today? Just thinking out loud! Satan loves confusion. Demoninations can cause confusion. They all have their own beliefs. Some of them are not biblical. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space_Karen Posted November 14, 2022 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 20 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 206 Content Per Day: 0.36 Reputation: 99 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/02/2022 Status: Offline Share Posted November 14, 2022 Isn't it normal for people to have different motives, ideas, values and beliefs. Resulting in different denominations. On the opposite end of the spectrum you have atheists. Who typically lack that type of individuality. Which is preferable? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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