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God WITH US.  Let’s meditate on these words, this Truth… selah 

Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.

- Matthew 1:23 (KJV)

He is despised and rejected by men, A Man of sorrows and acquainted with grief. And we hid, as it were, our faces from Him; He was despised, and we did not esteem Him. Surely He has borne our griefs And carried our sorrows; Yet we esteemed Him stricken, Smitten by God, and afflicted. But He was wounded for our transgressions, He was bruised for our iniquities; The chastisement for our peace was upon Him, And by His stripes we are healed. All we like sheep have gone astray; We have turned, every one, to his own way; And the LORD has laid on Him the iniquity of us all. He was oppressed and He was afflicted, Yet He opened not His mouth; He was led as a lamb to the slaughter, And as a sheep before its shearers is silent, So He opened not His mouth. Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise Him; He has put Him to grief. When You make His soul an offering for sin, He shall see His seed, He shall prolong His days, And the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in His hand.

- Isaiah 53:3-7,10 

Pilate said to them, "What then shall I do with Jesus who is called Christ?" They all said to him, "Let Him be crucified!" Then the governor said, "Why, what evil has He done?" But they cried out all the more, saying, "Let Him be crucified!"

- Matthew 27:22-23

When we see the words “Him” in verses 22 and 23 of Matthew, we see the Deity—Emmanuel, God with us—It was God Himself who came down in the flesh, who was born in a manger in Bethlehem, who was crucified on that cross.  Oh, the depth of God’s love and mercy!  When we look upon Jesus Christ crucified, we see the majesty of God Himself.

"For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. 

- John 3:16

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2 hours ago, Your closest friendnt said:

The above passage is not found in Mathew 1:23.

I thought to let you know.

Merry Christmas to you! 

Is that what you want us to say to one another by posting about the birth of Jesus Christ. 

How do you celebrate Christmas? This is another question, but still I like to know...

The same for the above. 

I thought to let you know that the above narrative is not described in Isaiah 53: 3-7,10.

***I do not find the specific word "God" in Isaiah 53 but rather the word "Servant". 

This is about the "Servant" ....the Servant, it is about the "servant", everything described in Isaiah 53: is about the "the Servant". 

Even the referenc to John 3:16:is about THE SON OF GOD AND NOT ABOUT GOD...

GOD LOVED THE WORLD BUT HIS SON DIED AND NOT HIM.

HIS SON, THE MAN JESUS.  

God cannot die because He does not have a body like a man to suffer the lost of blood and his heart to stop beating...and he will stop breathing.  

Friendnt, the scripture references in red point to the scripture right above in green. :whistling:  

And I must ask, do you believe in the Trinity?


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5 hours ago, Your closest friendnt said:

Can you celebrate the birthday of the Trinity?  

But you can celebrate the Birthday of Jesus....do you celebrate the birthday of Jesus?  

You need to believe in Jesus....Jesus is the Savior. 

Friendnt, a person who understands the Trinity will know that Jesus Christ, while living here on earth, was God in the flesh—God with us.  I will not debate this with you.  God bless. :)

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In any case . . . we acknowledge the manifestation of God being birthed in the flesh, in the Person of Jesus.  Truly a mystery!  But man was made in God's image and likeness, so it was the Creator (like a hand) coming into Man (like a glove).  As Psalm 8:4 says, "What is man that You are mindful of him?"

However, as wonderful as that birth was, it was something necessary for the real purpose - to die as a Man for sin, so that the life of Christ could then be manifested in us!

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1 hour ago, Your closest friendnt said:

The scriptures reference you posted do not say his name is "God with us".

@Your closest friendnt Why didn’t you quote verse 23 in it’s entirety?  In not doing so on purpose, you are perverting the Truth of God’s Word.  Here it is again:

Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.

- Matthew 1:23 (KJV)

I really can’t believe you did this, friendnt.  


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1 hour ago, Your closest friendnt said:

We are not in a debate. 

The scriptures reference you posted do not say his name is "God with us".

In Mathew 1:18 18 Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost.

And Mathew 1:21 21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name Jesus: for he shall save his people from their sins.

Mathew 1:22-23 

22 Now all this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying,

23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel,

And the Issiah 7:14 English Standard Version
Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign Behold the virgin shall conceive and bear a son and shall call his name Immanuel. 

 

The above is what you wrote, @Your closest friendnt.  You chose to not include the words “God with us” in verse 23.  Why?

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2 minutes ago, Selah7 said:

@Your closest friendnt Why didn’t you quote verse 23 in it’s entirety?  In not doing so on purpose, you are perverting the Truth of God’s Word.  Here it is again:

Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.

- Matthew 1:23 (KJV)

I really can’t believe you did this, friendnt.  

It takes a little bit time to read the post in its entirety but it takes the same time to quote my entire post so others can read it and make up their own minds. 

The brother above agreed that the words "which being interpreted is, God with us

Are not in the prophetic Isaiah 7:14 and that Matthew 1:22 it makes a reference to Isaiah 7:14 .

Mathew 1:22 Now all this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying, Isaiah 7:14

 And the Issiah 7:14 English Standard Version
Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign Behold the virgin shall conceive and bear a son and shall call his name Immanuel. 

Mathew did not include those words in verse 23, that's why they are not included in all the original in Greek and in the hundred of the translations word for word...

Did you know that? And I tried politely to bring it to your attention...by posting the prophetic from Isaiah 7:14... 

 


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1 minute ago, Your closest friendnt said:

It takes a little bit time to read the post in its entirety but it takes the same time to quote my entire post so others can read it and make up their own minds. 

The brother above agreed that the words "which being interpreted is, God with us

Are not in the prophetic Isaiah 7:14 and that Matthew 1:22 it makes a reference to Isaiah 7:14 .

Mathew 1:22 Now all this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying, Isaiah 7:14

 And the Issiah 7:14 English Standard Version
Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign Behold the virgin shall conceive and bear a son and shall call his name Immanuel. 

Mathew did not include those words in verse 23, that's why they are not included in all the original in Greek and in the hundred of the translations word for word...

Did you know that? And I tried politely to bring it to your attention...by posting the prophetic from Isaiah 7:14... 

 

Yes, I did know that.  Here is the original prophecy:

Isaiah 7:14 
Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.

The very manner of His birth was a fulfillment of prophecy and it was fulfilled in the "virgin" whose name was Mary.

Again, friendnt, why did you cut off verse 23, leaving out the very important words—“God with us?”

 


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@Your closest friendnt

Strong's Concordance
Emmanouél: "God with us," Immanuel, a name of Christ

Original Word: Ἐμμανουήλ, ὁ
Part of Speech: Proper Noun, Indeclinable
Transliteration: Emmanouél
Phonetic Spelling: (em-man-oo-ale')
Definition: "God with us", Immanuel, a name of Christ
Usage: Emmanuel, a Messianic title derived from Isaiah 7:14 = God with us.

 

Thayer's Greek Lexicon

STRONGS NT 1694: Ἐμμανουήλ

Ἐμμανουήλ, , Immanuel (from עִמָּנוּ and אֵל; God with us), equivalent to savior, a name given to Christ by Matthew, Matthew 1:23, after Isaiah 7:14. According to the orthodox interpretation the name denotes the same as θεανθρωπος, and has reference to the personal union of the human nature and the divine in Christ. (See BB. DD. under the word.) 


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2 minutes ago, Selah7 said:

Yes, I did know that.  Here is the original prophecy:

Isaiah 7:14 
Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.

The very manner of His birth was a fulfillment of prophecy and it was fulfilled in the "virgin" whose name was Mary.

Again, friendnt, why did you cut off verse 23, leaving out the very important words—“God with us?”

 

First of all I did not sensor your quote. I referred to the scriptures reference and I will do it one more time to show that the words "which is interpreted "God with us" are the words of the translator by his own admission and which he accepts and he has let us know that they are not the words of Mathew...that it is his own commentary words. 

Mathew correctly quoted the Isaiah 7:14 in his letter without the commentary of the translator of the Version you are reading for...SORRY ABOUT THAT....

With your own admission those words are not found in the prophetic Isaiah 7:14...

Now the next step that I did when I found out that those words are commentary of the translators who they do not deny and they inform the reader that they are not the words of Mathew...that they inserted those words them selves...

I am not telling you what to believe or what Version conveniently to choose...but the way you have lead  the readership into believing wrongly that Mathew wrote those words....

I also let the readership know that Mathew did not write those words...in his letter...

And that Mathew correctly quoted word for word the prophetic in Isaiah 7:14. 

 

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