Oldest Galaxies Found Relative to Big Bang

[SavedOnebyGrace]

Source: From Webb Space Telescope

So far, everything lines up with current cosmological theory.

[Vine Abider]

Amazing - try to wrap our human minds around that! 

So is the universe beyond ancient, or did it happen not that long ago?  UPDATE:  Just found the thread discussing this ("Reconciling 6 days with 13.7 Billion Years")

Edited December 11, 2022 by Vine Abider
Updated info

[JohnD]

Australian physicist Barry Setterfield and mathematician Trevor Norman examined all of the available experimental measurements to date and have announced a discovery: the speed of light appears to have been slowing down over the years! [Roemer, 1657 (Io eclipse): +/- 307,600 5400 km/sec; Harvard, 1875 (same method): +/- 299,921 13 km/sec; NBS, 1983 (laser method): +/- 299,792.4586 0.0003 km/sec.] They all are approximately 186,000 miles/second; or about one foot/nanosecond.)³

While the margin of error improved over the years, the mean value has noticeably decreased. In fact, the bands of uncertainty hardly overlap.

As you would expect, these findings are highly controversial, especially to the more traditional physicists. However, many who scoffed at the idea initially have subsequently begun to take a closer look at the possibilities.

Alan Montgomery, the Canadian mathematician, has also analyzed the data statistically and has concluded that the decay of c, the velocity of light, has followed a cosecant-squared curve with a correlation coefficient of better than 99%.

A New Perspective

This curve would imply that the speed of light may have been 10-30% faster in the time of Christ; twice as fast in the days of Solomon; and four times as fast in the days of Abraham. It would imply that the velocity of light was more than 10 million times faster prior to 3000 b.c. This possibility would also totally alter our concepts of time and the age of the universe. The universe might actually be less than 10,000 years old!

[BeyondET]

3 hours ago, JohnD said:

Australian physicist Barry Setterfield and mathematician Trevor Norman examined all of the available experimental measurements to date and have announced a discovery: the speed of light appears to have been slowing down over the years! [Roemer, 1657 (Io eclipse): +/- 307,600 5400 km/sec; Harvard, 1875 (same method): +/- 299,921 13 km/sec; NBS, 1983 (laser method): +/- 299,792.4586 0.0003 km/sec.] They all are approximately 186,000 miles/second; or about one foot/nanosecond.)³

While the margin of error improved over the years, the mean value has noticeably decreased. In fact, the bands of uncertainty hardly overlap.

As you would expect, these findings are highly controversial, especially to the more traditional physicists. However, many who scoffed at the idea initially have subsequently begun to take a closer look at the possibilities.

Alan Montgomery, the Canadian mathematician, has also analyzed the data statistically and has concluded that the decay of c, the velocity of light, has followed a cosecant-squared curve with a correlation coefficient of better than 99%.

A New Perspective

This curve would imply that the speed of light may have been 10-30% faster in the time of Christ; twice as fast in the days of Solomon; and four times as fast in the days of Abraham. It would imply that the velocity of light was more than 10 million times faster prior to 3000 b.c. This possibility would also totally alter our concepts of time and the age of the universe. The universe might actually be less than 10,000 years old!

Time would go backwards if light was faster than it is created to be.

If light was slower time would be also, as well if humans traveled near light speed time slows down. But only massless particles can travel faster than light speed.

But there is small fluxes from faster to slower, light travelly faster causes a (luminal boom).

Slower speeds cause other anomalies both fluxes contribute to formation of galaxies, solar systems planets etc.

The changes are still within special relativity Einsteins equation.

Speed of light is of a perspective by observation.

Edited January 14, 2023 by BeyondET

[teddyv]

11 hours ago, JohnD said:

Australian physicist Barry Setterfield and mathematician Trevor Norman examined all of the available experimental measurements to date and have announced a discovery: the speed of light appears to have been slowing down over the years! [Roemer, 1657 (Io eclipse): +/- 307,600 5400 km/sec; Harvard, 1875 (same method): +/- 299,921 13 km/sec; NBS, 1983 (laser method): +/- 299,792.4586 0.0003 km/sec.] They all are approximately 186,000 miles/second; or about one foot/nanosecond.)³

While the margin of error improved over the years, the mean value has noticeably decreased. In fact, the bands of uncertainty hardly overlap.

As you would expect, these findings are highly controversial, especially to the more traditional physicists. However, many who scoffed at the idea initially have subsequently begun to take a closer look at the possibilities.

Alan Montgomery, the Canadian mathematician, has also analyzed the data statistically and has concluded that the decay of c, the velocity of light, has followed a cosecant-squared curve with a correlation coefficient of better than 99%.

A New Perspective

This curve would imply that the speed of light may have been 10-30% faster in the time of Christ; twice as fast in the days of Solomon; and four times as fast in the days of Abraham. It would imply that the velocity of light was more than 10 million times faster prior to 3000 b.c. This possibility would also totally alter our concepts of time and the age of the universe. The universe might actually be less than 10,000 years old!

If the speed of light was that much faster the earth would have been irradiated and melted.

[JohnD]

What if time does not actually dilate (as relativity supposes). That the progression we often refer to as time (time actually being the methods we measure the progression of the universe) proceeds at basically the same pace. Our measuring devices can measure dilation in the minuscule ways we can measure (slower time on Earth than say in orbit). But that is not a very large variance at all.

It may have more to do with gravity wells than the speed of light.

Gravity does seem to slow time down, but reverse time?

You're talking Star Trek / Science Fiction..

[BeyondET]

1 hour ago, JohnD said:

What if time does not actually dilate (as relativity supposes). That the progression we often refer to as time (time actually being the methods we measure the progression of the universe) proceeds at basically the same pace. Our measuring devices can measure dilation in the minuscule ways we can measure (slower time on Earth than say in orbit). But that is not a very large variance at all.

It may have more to do with gravity wells than the speed of light.

Gravity does seem to slow time down, but reverse time?

You're talking Star Trek / Science Fiction..

Everything is in motion in the universe, gravity can push or pull on any matter light also.

Relaxing on my couch I'm still moving at 490,000 mph in a solar system on earth that is moving 1,000 mph around the sun at 67,000 mph, riding in a galaxy moving 1.3 million mph in the universe.

trillions of tiny time bubbles in the vacuum of space, atoms is a good representation of finite time. Atomic clocks use them.

Edited January 15, 2023 by BeyondET

[Guest]

Source: https://www.grc.nasa.gov/www/k-12/Numbers/Math/Mathematical_Thinking/how_fast_is_the_speed.htm

So NASA is wrong, but you are right. Hmmm.

[BeyondET]

Green pea galaxies have 2% as much amount of oxygen than the milky way, produce 100 times the stars hydrogen. oldest star right here in the milky way probably from an old green pea the waters, the deep seems like the cosmic dark period light was in a fog, green peas broke through it. Basically what the articles say lol.

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-023-00064-7

https://www.space.com/james-webb-space-telescope-green-pea-galaxies

Edited January 15, 2023 by BeyondET

[JohnD]

10 hours ago, BeyondET said:

Everything is in motion in the universe, gravity can push or pull on any matter light also.

Relaxing on my couch I'm still moving at 490,000 mph in a solar system on earth that is moving 1,000 mph around the sun at 67,000 mph, riding in a galaxy moving 1.3 million mph in the universe.

trillions of tiny time bubbles in the vacuum of space, atoms is a good representation of finite time. Atomic clocks use them.

Interesting, I had a similar conversation with my Beloved Bride recently about how we are in constant motion but have relative stability in our lives.

Atomic clocks still only measure the slightest of variance in dilation of time (due to lesser gravity).

What's your point?