Does Daniel's 70 weeks total 500-years not 490?

[almost6,000]

The 70 x 7-years do = 490-years if the complete Jubilee cycle is calendrically and effectively only 49-years. But if a full jubilee year cycle is a 7x7+1 that is = to 50 full calendar years. Then Daniel's prophecy from King Cyrus' famous decree to the year before the crucifixion is not 490-years but 500-years. And 500-years is 10 Jubilee 50-year cycles (10x [7x7+1] =500), exactly half of a 1,000-year "Day". So, if, in a Jubilee year, Yeshua/Jesus died as most believe in AD-33, then Cyrus' Jubilee year decree was in 468-BC.

Hosea 5:15-6:2 teaches me that Yeshuah will return in 2-"Days" or exactly 2,000-years from when He ascended back to His place (in heaven) which means He will return in 2,033-AD if He died in 33-AD. If instead He died and ascended back to heaven, say in year 30-AD then He is returning to set up His 3rd-"Day" of Hosea or 7th millennial "Day" Sabbath kingdom in 2,030-AD for 1,000-years?

So, if Yeshua returns in say 2,033-AD and died 2,000-years earlier in 33-AD and God does indeed have a 6,000+1,000 =7,000-year plan for man. Then God's normal week of 6+1 days of creation was 6,000-years before 2,033 and 4,000-years before 33-AD. Therefore, it seems that creation week was in 3,968-BC if Yeshua died and returned to His place in the year of 33-AD, the most esteemed year for the crucifixion and ascension.

What do you think??

 

[Retrobyter]

4 hours ago, almost6,000 said:

The 70 x 7-years do = 490-years if the complete Jubilee cycle is calendrically and effectively only 49-years. But if a full jubilee year cycle is a 7x7+1 that is = to 50 full calendar years. Then Daniel's prophecy from King Cyrus' famous decree to the year before the crucifixion is not 490-years but 500-years. And 500-years is 10 Jubilee 50-year cycles (10x [7x7+1] =500), exactly half of a 1,000-year "Day". So, if, in a Jubilee year, Yeshua/Jesus died as most believe in AD-33, then Cyrus' Jubilee year decree was in 468-BC.

Hosea 5:15-6:2 teaches me that Yeshuah will return in 2-"Days" or exactly 2,000-years from when He ascended back to His place (in heaven) which means He will return in 2,033-AD if He died in 33-AD. If instead He died and ascended back to heaven, say in year 30-AD then He is returning to set up His 3rd-"Day" of Hosea or 7th millennial "Day" Sabbath kingdom in 2,030-AD for 1,000-years?

So, if Yeshua returns in say 2,033-AD and died 2,000-years earlier in 33-AD and God does indeed have a 6,000+1,000 =7,000-year plan for man. Then God's normal week of 6+1 days of creation was 6,000-years before 2,033 and 4,000-years before 33-AD. Therefore, it seems that creation week was in 3,968-BC if Yeshua died and returned to His place in the year of 33-AD, the most esteemed year for the crucifixion and ascension.

What do you think??

 

Shalom, almost6,000.

I used to wonder that, but the truth is that the year of Jubilee (Hebrew "YoVeel" " יוֹבֵל" meaning "a ram's horn") is the FIRST year of the next cycle. So, it's just 7x7, not 7x7+1.

Good thinking, though!

[almost6,000]

You say your 50th year is the 1st year of your next cycle (of 49). Most reductionists make it the last year of the 49-year cycle and still others have the last half of the 49th plus the 1st half of the 1st year of the next cycle as a 3rd 49-year cycle option??? One overlaps the 49th year, one overlaps the 1st year and one overlaps half of year 49 and half of year 1 effectively making all 3 methods a 49-year calendar cycle.

The 49-year Jubilee cycle may be your truth and believed, in some form, by many and even most teachers of Lev 25. But the text, the whole chronology of the Bible, the Hebrew's pre-Babylonian exile usage and postexile to today's non-usage, the evenly divisible mathematics into thousands, all inform us that it is 7x7 + one additional intercalated year to total 50 fully completed years, before the next cycle of 7x7+1. or 1+7x7. Two Jubilee cycles is a full 100 years not 98??

In accepting the 50-year cycle from creation, God has given us His complete Jubilee calendar for His own 6,000+1,000-year plan. Which is His prophetic paradigm for appointed history.  God often does great things on His Jubilee/Yovel years like Cyrus' famous decree and 500-years later, also on a Jubilee/Yovel the Lord was crucified. Then 2,000-year after this also on a Jubilee/Yovel He will return in Glory for 1,000-years and then another Jubilee/Yovel when creating a forever and ever brand new earth.

All these things and much more is not just missed but obscured by any form of a 49-year Jubilee cycle.

[George]

I'm going to move this to Prophecy ... Welcome @almost6,000 to Worthy Christian Forums!

[Retrobyter]

23 hours ago, almost6,000 said:

You say your 50th year is the 1st year of your next cycle (of 49). Most reductionists make it the last year of the 49-year cycle and still others have the last half of the 49th plus the 1st half of the 1st year of the next cycle as a 3rd 49-year cycle option??? One overlaps the 49th year, one overlaps the 1st year and one overlaps half of year 49 and half of year 1 effectively making all 3 methods a 49-year calendar cycle.

The 49-year Jubilee cycle may be your truth and believed, in some form, by many and even most teachers of Lev 25. But the text, the whole chronology of the Bible, the Hebrew's pre-Babylonian exile usage and postexile to today's non-usage, the evenly divisible mathematics into thousands, all inform us that it is 7x7 + one additional intercalated year to total 50 fully completed years, before the next cycle of 7x7+1. or 1+7x7. Two Jubilee cycles is a full 100 years not 98??

In accepting the 50-year cycle from creation, God has given us His complete Jubilee calendar for His own 6,000+1,000-year plan. Which is His prophetic paradigm for appointed history.  God often does great things on His Jubilee/Yovel years like Cyrus' famous decree and 500-years later, also on a Jubilee/Yovel the Lord was crucified. Then 2,000-year after this also on a Jubilee/Yovel He will return in Glory for 1,000-years and then another Jubilee/Yovel when creating a forever and ever brand new earth.

All these things and much more is not just missed but obscured by any form of a 49-year Jubilee cycle.

Shalom, almost6,000.

If you don't like my answer, just say so! God likes 7's. Oh, well! If that doesn't work into your nifty little package because 7000 isn't divisible by 49, who cares?! IT'S TRULY NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS!

If you don't like it, TAKE IT UP WITH GOD!

I'm done here.

[almost6,000]

God does especially like 7's and 6+1's as well.

He also likes 3's, 10's, 40's, 50's, 70's and so many more.

When it comes to chronology and the 1st major pattern of numbers established it was 6+1=7-day "normal week" and this is typologically prophetic of His 6,000+1,000 = 7,000-year "great week" MASTER template. Of course 7,000 is divisible by 7's, 70's and 700's but He does seem to do great things affecting salvation history on these 50th date markers as He definitely has often done on His appointed stand-alone 50th Jubilee year from creation-1 AM (AM year from creation).

He still likes 7's as He has a 7x7 within His round number of 50 which is 7 Shmita cycles +1-year = 50-years.

Which is similar to the 7-days +1 of the feast of Tabernacles. And the

7-weeks of 7-days +1 of the count to the feast of Pentecost. Which is also a 7x7+1 that =50.

Daniel 9:24 is a prophecy based on Lev 25 and = 10 of His 7's x 7's of years +1 = 500-years in total.

When people count the Omer do they only count 7x7 or 7x7+1.

If we up the scale, it would be 70x70+10 which = also 500 or 10 full 50-year Jubilee cycles.

God's wholistic and gapless 7,000-year Bible-only chronology is based on various internally consistent patterns.

The numbers work. My God knows how to count and fulfill all His times of appointment. And although the enemy of God will seek to change the appointed times and the Law Dan 7:25, God's appointed times and Law still stand.

By removing the 50th year and integrating it in some way, into a 49-year-only cycle destroys the beauty of the Bible's design of appointed history and how He has been in control of it and even orchestrating it. In fact, effectively removing this 50th year from its rightful place and significance changes one of God's own major appointed times and therefore distorts His own calendar and revelation to man.