Man was in Pangaea

[dad2]

2 hours ago, The Barbarian said:

No.  The word "erets" means "land", not "earth."    The word for world was "tebel."

Well, let's take a look...

Here's a list as to the number of verses in which "world" (tebel) was used:

https://biblehub.com/hebrew/strongs_8398.htm

And where "land" (erets) is used:

https://biblehub.com/hebrew/eretz_776.htm

Notice that "tebel" is always used for "the whole world."

 

Better still let's look at the actual definition from the Hebrew of the verse in question.

 

"

Brown-Driver-Briggs'

1) to divide, split

1a) (Niphal) to be split, be divided

1b) (Piel)

1b1) to split, cleave

1b2) to divide

Strong's
A primitive root; to split (literally or figuratively): - divide."

 

https://www.studylight.org/study-desk/interlinear.html?q1=Genesis+10:25

 

Clearly the meaning fits a land separation as well as the other divisions and language changes etc. No question. It also fits the evidence man has such as that the world was together, and all the fossils shared by various continents etc.

 There fore to be so adamant in trying to omit the split of the supercontinent as a possibility shows an agenda. And it sure is not a bible or creation or Go friendly one.

 

 

[BeyondET]

On 2/5/2023 at 10:30 PM, The Barbarian said:

No.  The word "erets" means "land", not "earth."    The word for world was "tebel."

Well, let's take a look...

Here's a list as to the number of verses in which "world" (tebel) was used:

https://biblehub.com/hebrew/strongs_8398.htm

And where "land" (erets) is used:

https://biblehub.com/hebrew/eretz_776.htm

Notice that "tebel" is always used for "the whole world."

 

Genesis 1:22

Then God blessed them and said, “Be fruitful and multiply and fill the waters of the seas, and let birds multiply on the earth.”

 

takes afew land masses to have seas, the earth has had more than one supercontinent, interesting in 28 just sea.

Man from dirt is simple enough all that constitute dirt, humans arose from.

Edited February 7, 2023 by BeyondET

[The Barbarian]

On 2/6/2023 at 12:10 AM, dad2 said:

Clearly the meaning fits a land separation as well as the other divisions and language changes etc. No question.

And given that God already tells you that the land was divided in the time, by people having different languages, why not just accept that the division He's telling you about is the one He's telling you about?

Therefore  for you to be so adamant in trying to omit God's word about the land being divided by different languages as a possibility shows an agenda. And it sure is not a Bible or creation or God-friendly one.

 

[dad2]

On 2/5/2023 at 7:32 PM, The Barbarian said:

So he formed Adam.   Now you're changing your story, again?

It doesn't say that, does it?   "Grown man" isn't there.  Remember, the text itself says that it's a figurative account.

 

You think God formed a tiny baby in the dirt and took Eve from his body the same day?

[The Barbarian]

13 minutes ago, dad2 said:

You think God formed a tiny baby in the dirt and took Eve from his body the same day?

You're still trying to force a literal re-interpretation on a figurative account.  

 

[dad2]

3 hours ago, The Barbarian said:

And given that God already tells you that the land was divided in the time, by people having different languages, why not just accept that the division He's telling you about is the one He's telling you about?

Therefore  for you to be so adamant in trying to omit God's word about the land being divided by different languages as a possibility shows an agenda. And it sure is not a Bible or creation or God-friendly one.

 

 

" Brown-Driver-Briggs'

1) to divide, split

1a) (Niphal) to be split, be divided

1b) (Piel)

1b1) to split, cleave

1b2) to divide

Strong's
A primitive root; to split (literally or figuratively): - divide."

 

https://www.studylight.org/study-desk/interlinear.html?q1=Genesis+10:25

 

The division that happened in Peleg's day does not take away from how there were also some nations before that. Just as the tower of Babel does not take away from having families of people before that time. It even looks like that is how God probably divided the languages at Babel. We do know that there was ONE language in all the world until that time. So if we read about languages guess when that is?

 

One commentary puts it this way

"everyone after his tongue, after their families, in their nations; this shows, that what is said concerning the division of countries to the sons of Japheth is by way of anticipation; and that, though thus related, was not done till after the confusion of languages"

https://www.studylight.org/commentaries/eng/geb/genesis-10.html#verse-5

 

So you don't get to say that it was before.

 

Ha

 

 

 

 

[dad2]

12 minutes ago, The Barbarian said:

You're still trying to force a literal re-interpretation on a figurative account.  

 

It is called belief. If God tells us men built a tower after migrating to an area after the flood, that does not mean the jolly green giant pooped jelly beans.

[The Barbarian]

You're still trying to force a literal re-interpretation on a figurative account.  

5 hours ago, dad2 said:

It is called belief.

It's called "altering God's word."   I wish you'd stop it.

5 hours ago, dad2 said:

If God tells us men built a tower after migrating to an area after the flood, that does not mean the jolly green giant pooped jelly beans.

It wouldn't be much worse than the other things you've added to scripture.  Why not just accept it as it is?

 

 

[The Barbarian]

6 hours ago, dad2 said:

The division that happened in Peleg's day does not take away from how there were also some nations before that. Just as the tower of Babel does not take away from having families of people before that time. It even looks like that is how God probably divided the languages at Babel.

That's another of your alterations of scripture:

Genesis 11:3 They said to each other, “Come, let’s make bricks and bake them thoroughly.” They used brick instead of stone, and tar for mortar. ⁴ Then they said, “Come, let us build ourselves a city, with a tower that reaches to the heavens, so that we may make a name for ourselves; otherwise we will be scattered over the face of the whole earth.”

⁵ But the Lord came down to see the city and the tower the people were building. ⁶ The Lord said, “If as one people speaking the same language they have begun to do this, then nothing they plan to do will be impossible for them. ⁷ Come, let us go down and confuse their language so they will not understand each other.”

⁸ So the Lord scattered them from there over all the earth, and they stopped building the city. ⁹ That is why it was called Babel^[c]—because there the Lord confused the language of the whole world. From there the Lord scattered them over the face of the whole earth.

But this could not have been the break up of Pangea during a flood:

Peleg was born after the flood.

Genesis 11:10 This is the account of Shem’s family line.

Two years after the flood, when Shem was 100 years old, he became the father^[d] of Arphaxad. ¹¹ And after he became the father of Arphaxad, Shem lived 500 years and had other sons and daughters.

¹² When Arphaxad had lived 35 years, he became the father of Shelah. ¹³ And after he became the father of Shelah, Arphaxad lived 403 years and had other sons and daughters.^[e]

¹⁴ When Shelah had lived 30 years, he became the father of Eber. ¹⁵ And after he became the father of Eber, Shelah lived 403 years and had other sons and daughters.

¹⁶ When Eber had lived 34 years, he became the father of Peleg.

[Guest]

8 hours ago, dad2 said:

You think God formed a tiny baby in the dirt and took Eve from his body the same day?

The work of the Lord in creating human life involved both fashioning from the dust and inbreathing. The word formed (from yāṣar, Genesis 2:7) describes the work of an artist. Like a potter shaping an earthen vessel from clay, so God formed man from clay. Man was made by divine plan; also he was made from the earth. [Bible Knowledge Commentary]

God’s breathing the breath of life into man transformed his form into a living being (lit., “a living soul”). This made man a spiritual being, with a capacity for serving and fellowshipping with God. With this special Creation in mind, the reader can see the significance of the Fall. Since the Fall, regeneration by the “inbreathing” of the Holy Spirit is essential in order for people to enjoy fellowship with God. [Bible Knowledge Commentary]

So God made man forming man from the dust of the ground. It needs to be noted that man does not contain any chemical not found on the planet Earth. DNA does not show any chemical compound or element not already present on the Earth. When God breathed into man, He gave life to an exquisitely formed a being of dust, dirt, and clay which would become Adam. Evolution played no part in creation, IMHO.