Man was in Pangaea

[BeyondET]

7 hours ago, Saved.One.by.Grace said:

The work of the Lord in creating human life involved both fashioning from the dust and inbreathing. The word formed (from yāṣar, Genesis 2:7) describes the work of an artist. Like a potter shaping an earthen vessel from clay, so God formed man from clay. Man was made by divine plan; also he was made from the earth. [Bible Knowledge Commentary]

God’s breathing the breath of life into man transformed his form into a living being (lit., “a living soul”). This made man a spiritual being, with a capacity for serving and fellowshipping with God. With this special Creation in mind, the reader can see the significance of the Fall. Since the Fall, regeneration by the “inbreathing” of the Holy Spirit is essential in order for people to enjoy fellowship with God. [Bible Knowledge Commentary]

So God made man forming man from the dust of the ground. It needs to be noted that man does not contain any chemical not found on the planet Earth. DNA does not show any chemical compound or element not already present on the Earth. When God breathed into man, He gave life to an exquisitely formed a being of dust, dirt, and clay which would become Adam. Evolution played no part in creation, IMHO.

There's a total of 109 chemicals in the human body. 42 are called mystery chemicals its not conpletely known where they came from. The human body host some 10,000 different species. 

Edited February 8, 2023 by BeyondET

[Guest]

14 hours ago, BeyondET said:

There's a total of 109 chemicals in the human body. 42 are called mystery chemicals its not conpletely known where they came from. The human body host some 10,000 different species. 

Let me put this another way, was there any element in the periodic table found in man but not in nature? I'm not talking about about compounds made up of elements in the periodic table.

[BeyondET]

36 minutes ago, Saved.One.by.Grace said:

Let me put this another way, was there any element in the periodic table found in man but not in nature? I'm not talking about about compounds made up of elements in the periodic table.

I see, yes all the elements on the periodic table. Human DNA also is found in plants and animals. there's around 44% in a banana, 85% in a mouse, 80% in insects. In any living thing there's human DNA and vice-versa, humans even produce rocks.

Edited February 9, 2023 by BeyondET

[dad2]

On 2/8/2023 at 12:33 AM, Saved.One.by.Grace said:

So are you saying the Ancient-Hebrew Language organization doesn't understand the Hebrew Language as well as you?

What does that language say that erases the fact that there was a day with a morning and evening? If there were, say, three possible usages of the word day (in any language) that we must choose from to fit the context of morning and evening, why would we pick anything else but a day?

[dad2]

On 2/7/2023 at 9:32 PM, The Barbarian said:

So you now realize the division in the days of Peleg was linguistic, not geologic?   Good.

As you see, it could not have been the breakup of Pangea, since Peleg was born after the flood.

 

How would accepting what the bible says regarding how the scattering of people was after Babel be limited to 'linguistic'?

Do you think the people who migrated to the area where they built Babel had some sort of 'linguistic' migration? When God repeats twice about how people were scattered after Babel there really is no confusion as to what it means. The only thing is whether we might think the scattering was on a united big continent, or into all the continents as they now are.

For someone that does not believe in a real creation or that woman was taken from the created man, or that there was a flood, etc etc etc I can see why they are either totally confused or lying.

I am not convinced you are merely confused.

 

[dad2]

On 2/7/2023 at 9:35 PM, The Barbarian said:

I know you would like Genesis to be different than it is.   Sorry you think Scripture is unreal. Jesus did not teach this.  

But confusing the division caused by God in the days of Peleg, with the breakup of Pangea, is your revision of God's word.    For all your professed willingness to accept God's word, you continue to try to change it to your liking.

 

 

 

There is no doubt that God scattered people after Babel actually. None at all. It was not limited to language. It was after the languages were confused that God scattered people.

[The Barbarian]

4 hours ago, dad2 said:

There is no doubt that God scattered people after Babel actually. None at all. It was not limited to language. It was after the languages were confused that God scattered people.

And as you have seen, the much earlier breakup of Pangea had nothing whatever to do with it.

 

[The Barbarian]

4 hours ago, dad2 said:

How would accepting what the bible says regarding how the scattering of people was after Babel be limited to 'linguistic'?

For one thing, that's what the Bible says.   I realize you don't accept it as written, but that's what we have.

4 hours ago, dad2 said:

The only thing is whether we might think the scattering was on a united big continent, or into all the continents as they now are.

Ancient maps show the same divisions.   So we know the truth.

And the Bible says nothing at all about continents breaking up.   For all your professed willingness to accept God's word, you continue to try to change it to your liking.

4 hours ago, dad2 said:

For someone that does not believe in a real creation

I accept it as it is in the Bible.   You have to add things to make it acceptable.   Real creation is not your revisions.   It is what it is.

4 hours ago, dad2 said:

or that woman was taken from the created man

As you learned, the text tells us that it is not a literal history.   So that's not a problem for a Christian.  

4 hours ago, dad2 said:

or that there was a flood

There might well have been a real flood.  There was a huge flood in that area about the right time.   But it doesn't matter if it was real or an allegory.   You're building a fairy tale out of it, and ignoring what God is really telling you.   

4 hours ago, dad2 said:

I can see why they are either totally confused or lying.  I am not convinced you are merely confused.

It's pretty clear that you are confused and frustrated.  Hence your suggestion that I'm lying.   It's not doing you any good, but it's understandable why you're acting out here.

Edited February 9, 2023 by The Barbarian

[dad2]

4 hours ago, The Barbarian said:

And as you have seen, the much earlier breakup of Pangea had nothing whatever to do with it.

 

Nothing was earlier than Adam. Noah lived not that long after him. Your dream dates have no basis in fact or reality and are, as explained a number of times already, wholly faith based. I am not sure why some people whole heartedly embrace other belief systems than God's word while laying claim to believe Scripture. The result is an obvious comedy of errors that actual believers can easily see.

[dad2]

4 hours ago, The Barbarian said:

For one thing, that's what the Bible says.   I realize you don't accept it as written, but that's what we have.

Ancient maps show the same divisions.   So we know the truth.

And the Bible says nothing at all about continents breaking up.   For all your professed willingness to accept God's word, you continue to try to change it to your liking.

False. The bible says God scattered people and says it twice, after the Babel incident. After the confusion of tongues. Lurkers, have a look yourself.

Genesis 11:2

 

And it came to pass, as they journeyed from the east, that they found a plain in the land of Shinar; and they dwelt there.

 

You see they knew even before languages were confused that they could be scattered all over the globe for some reason at the time. "lest we be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth."

 

That was before Babel. You claim that the scattering and dividing was all linguistic is patently ridiculous.

 

The verse right after the confusion of language says this

 

Genesis 11:8

 

So the Lord scattered them abroad from thence upon the face of all the earth: and they left off to build the city.

 

This is driven home and repeated again in the very next verse as well!

 

Genesis 11:9

 

Therefore is the name of it called Babel; because the Lord did there confound the language of all the earth: and from thence did the Lord scatter them abroad upon the face of all the earth.

 

 

4 hours ago, The Barbarian said:

As you learned, the text tells us that it is not a literal history.   So that's not a problem for a Christian.  

No one learned any such foolishness.

4 hours ago, The Barbarian said:

There might well have been a real flood.  There was a huge flood in that area about the right time.   But it doesn't matter if it was real or an allegory.   You're building a fairy tale out of it, and ignoring what God is really telling you.   

After the flood God told man and animals to be fruitful

Genesis 8:17

 

Bring forth with thee every living thing that is with thee, of all flesh, both of fowl, and of cattle, and of every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth; that they may breed abundantly in the earth, and be fruitful, and multiply upon the earth.

 

Lurkers, take your pick from possible usages of the word 'earth' used here to see what fits or not

 

1) land, earth

1a) earth

1a1) whole earth (as opposed to a part)

1a2) earth (as opposed to heaven)

1a3) earth (inhabitants)

 

It is clear that anyone pretending the best fit is some local flood is disrespecting the letter and spirit of the text.

God Himself makes it crystal clear also in the same chapter what He had done.

Genesis 8:21

 

And the Lord smelled a sweet savour; and the Lord said in his heart, I will not again curse the ground any more for man's sake; for the imagination of man's heart is evil from his youth; neither will I again smite any more every thing living, as I have done.

 

God made it clear before the flood as well what He was about to do.

 

Genesis 6:6

 

And it repented the Lord that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.

Genesis 6:7

 

And the Lord said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.