The Millennium Promise

[Keras]

47 minutes ago, truth7t7 said:

Your claim is "False"

The book of life will be opened "At That Time" surrounding the great tribulation, not 1,000 years after as you claim

Daniel below speaks of the time of the "Future" Great Tribulation, the resurrection of all, and the final judgement as the book of life is opened

Daniel 12:1-2KJV
1 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.
2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.

Daniel 12:2-3 proves you wrong and to be a false teacher. 

Eternal life is only given to any human AFTER the Millennium. The time of tr0uble referred to in verse 1, will be the final attack against Jesus by Satan, as described in Revelation 20:7-10

You avoided verse 3; why?  Obviously because it describes Eternity, the spiritual state. Saying that Eternity comes when Jesus Returns, is a blatant error and is a direct contradiction of Revelation 20:1-6

[other one]

15 hours ago, FJK said:

Curious:  How long is a thousand years to God?

There are lots of theories about the thousand years as a day.      If my "M" String physics book is anywhere near the truth, where the Father lives there literally is no time...   The thousand years to a day isn't literal, just letting us know time there isn't like time here.  He can literally see what you are going to decide next week (assuming there is a next week)

[other one]

BTW a couple of you guys need to learn how to discuss a subject without putting each other down so much.

[FJK]

10 hours ago, other one said:

He can literally see what you are going to decide next week (assuming there is a next week)

Yeah, I fully agree wit that, things for which man has no concept have to be stated in such a way than man can conceive them.  I sort of like to look at my understanding of things the way the two dimensional characters in Flatland saw theirs, the three dimensional being having a concept of the two dimensional but not the other way around.

This could easily lead to a discourse that would make both of us look like raving lunatics if we went into it in any depth, one of those things that are best left unspoken for others to ponder for themselves in their own particular way.

(BTW, since you bring up M-theory, what exactly does the "M" in M-theory stand for?)

 

[other one]

1 hour ago, FJK said:

(BTW, since you bring up M-theory, what exactly does the "M" in M-theory stand for?)

 

I'll copy/paste something out of wikipedia

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M-theory brought all of the string theories together. It did this by asserting that strings are really one-dimensional slices of a two-dimensional membrane vibrating in 11-dimensional spacetime. Vibrations of higher-dimensional objects (as in three-dimensional vibrating blob or sphere or even more possible dimensions) are certainly a part of M-theory,^[5] but the basic theory of branes is still in progress. Higher-dimensional objects are much harder to mathematically calculate than a point in classical physics or a one-dimension string in string theory or two-dimensional membranes in M-theory.

If one can get through the math you can show that in our dimension, one can be in only one place at one time point.   In the fifth dimension one can be in two places at the same time or a single place in two different time points.     In the 11th dimension you can be in an infinite number of places at an infinite number of time points.....    basically there is no sense of time there.

It is an attempt at showing how gravity and other forces interact with each other to make up everything.    The major problem is that while we have the math to show how it all can work out, we haven't figured out a way to scientifically prove it to the point of calling it a scientific fact.     It's one of those things that just makes sense when you put it all together, and to me personally maybe a look into how heaven really works.

Some of the scientists working at CERN have this in the back of thier minds in hopes of opening up one or more of the upper dimensions within those ultra high energy collisions of particles.   I've heard them speak of in in different interviews across the world of news.

In my walk with the demonic world in the past, I was told that when the angels came from their other existence places, they had to lower their energies to fit in here.  That was long before I had ever heard of "M" string.   It can be fascinating stuff, but not really recommended to mess with, especially in this day and time.

[FJK]

21 minutes ago, other one said:

If one can get through the math you can show that in our dimension, one can be in only one place at one time point.   In the fifth dimension one can be in two places at the same time or a single place in two different time points.     In the 11th dimension you can be in an infinite number of places at an infinite number of time points.....    basically there is no sense of time there.

Ya' know, when Einstein was looking for a theory of everything and was presented with some new theory or explanation to consider, he would examine it while asking himself "Why would God do it that way?" (as recounted by Halpern).

 

Maybe another way to look at it is in Jesus statement about his Fathers House containing many mansions ("mansions" also can be translated as "rooms" as in rooms in a building).

 

As we continually search for truth and try to expand our understanding of nature's workings, we cannot, must not, leave God out of it.  Something too many in the scientific world try to do.

[other one]

4 minutes ago, FJK said:

Something too many in the scientific world try to do.

Agreed, they don't just leave him out, but actually I think most of the scientific world looks for ways for things to happen without God's input at all.   They seem to be trying to say there is no God.

[WilliamL]

On 3/17/2023 at 7:35 PM, Keras said:

Eternal life is only given to any human AFTER the Millennium.

Jesus is human (as well as being Divine), and He has eternal life. So that blows up your statement. And "we know that when He is revealed, we shall be like Him..." 1 John 3:2

Edited March 20, 2023 by WilliamL

[Keras]

52 minutes ago, WilliamL said:

Jesus is human (as well as being Divine), and He has eternal life. So that blows up your statement. And "we know that when He is revealed, we shall be like Him..." 1 John 3:2

Jesus existed before the world was made.  He is immortal, but became as a human for a short while. 

Thinking that 1 John 3:2 means we Christians will be made immortal when Jesus Returns, is a contradiction of many Bible verses.    That will not and cannot happen before the final Judgment. Revelation 20:11-15

[WilliamL]

11 minutes ago, Keras said:

Thinking that 1 John 3:2 means we Christians will be made immortal when Jesus Returns, is a contradiction of many Bible verses.    That will not and cannot happen before the final Judgment. Revelation 20:11-15

Paul teaches otherwise:

1 Cor. 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ all shall be made alive. 23 But each one in his own order: Christ the firstfruits, afterward those who are Christ’s at His coming. ... 48 As was the man of dust, so also are those who are made of dust; and as is the heavenly Man, so also are those who are heavenly. 49 And as we have borne the image of the man of dust, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly Man. ... 51 Behold, I tell you a mystery: We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed— 52 in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.