The Light Posted March 7, 2023 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 5 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,078 Content Per Day: 1.11 Reputation: 201 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/17/2019 Status: Offline Share Posted March 7, 2023 1 hour ago, WilliamL said: Before we go farther, we need to agree on what the term "the end of this age" means. My meaning is the end of the Church Age; to be followed by the Millennial Age. what is your meaning? I realize that you are not talking to me and I also know that you will not understand this. That said, the Church age is over BEFORE the seals are opened. The end of the age is the gathering from heaven and earth that takes place at the 6th seal. Mark 13 27 And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth to the uttermost part of heaven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revelation Man Posted March 7, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 9 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 4,073 Content Per Day: 1.41 Reputation: 553 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/01/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted March 7, 2023 (edited) 18 hours ago, kenny2212 said: I beg to differ. You are allowed to be wrong on this, you are on everything else. This isn't even hard to understand (for most). The Kingdom Age is what all Jews were looking towards, so in these "Conversations with Jesus" via the disciples this has to be taken into account. What happens at the Kingdom Age? Jesus rules, Satan is locked in the bottomless pit. Prophecy is not your bag. Edited March 7, 2023 by Revelation Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenny2212 Posted March 7, 2023 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 49 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 359 Content Per Day: 0.14 Reputation: 101 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/27/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted March 7, 2023 4 hours ago, WilliamL said: Before we go farther, we need to agree on what the term "the end of this age" means. My meaning is the end of the Church Age; to be followed by the Millennial Age. what is your meaning? I mean the end of this age as the end of the church age. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenny2212 Posted March 7, 2023 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 49 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 359 Content Per Day: 0.14 Reputation: 101 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/27/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted March 7, 2023 3 hours ago, Revelation Man said: You are allowed to be wrong on this, you are on everything else. This isn't even hard to understand (for most). The Kingdom Age is what all Jews were looking towards, so in these "Conversations with Jesus" via the disciples this has to be taken into account. What happens at the Kingdom Age? Jesus rules, Satan is locked in the bottomless pit. Prophecy is not your bag. I don't disagree with you on what the Kingdom Age is, I do though with your timing of its commencement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael37 Posted March 7, 2023 Group: Servant Followers: 21 Topic Count: 241 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 6,953 Content Per Day: 3.27 Reputation: 4,872 Days Won: 2 Joined: 07/05/2018 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/23/1954 Share Posted March 7, 2023 44 minutes ago, kenny2212 said: I don't disagree with you on what the Kingdom Age is, I do though with your timing of its commencement. Some readers here may remember this soon to be tested prediction based thread: RESURRECTION AND RAPTURE ROUGHLY BETWEEN APRIL 2023 AND APRIL 2024? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenny2212 Posted March 7, 2023 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 49 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 359 Content Per Day: 0.14 Reputation: 101 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/27/2017 Status: Offline Author Share Posted March 7, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Michael37 said: Some readers here may remember this soon to be tested prediction based thread: RESURRECTION AND RAPTURE ROUGHLY BETWEEN APRIL 2023 AND APRIL 2024? Nah, I THINK it will not happen roughly between April 2023 and April 2024. Edited March 7, 2023 by kenny2212 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth7t7 Posted March 7, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 56 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2,749 Content Per Day: 0.60 Reputation: 329 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/19/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted March 7, 2023 8 hours ago, Revelation Man said: What happens at the Kingdom Age? Jesus rules, Satan is locked in the bottomless pit. There won't be a Millennial Kingdom On This Earth, Jesus Returns In Fire And Final Judgement (The End) Luke 17:29-30KJV 29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all. 30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreeGrace Posted March 7, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 8 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,428 Content Per Day: 8.22 Reputation: 610 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/07/2022 Status: Offline Share Posted March 7, 2023 3 hours ago, truth7t7 said: There won't be a Millennial Kingdom On This Earth, Jesus Returns In Fire And Final Judgement (The End) Luke 17:29-30KJV 29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all. 30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed. Continuation of extreme confusion. Yes, there will be a MK, as Rev 20 plainly says, and Jesus WILL exercise "final judgment" at the GWT judgment in Rev 20:11-15, which is OBVIOUSLY after the MK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth7t7 Posted March 7, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 56 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2,749 Content Per Day: 0.60 Reputation: 329 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/19/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted March 7, 2023 2 minutes ago, FreeGrace said: Continuation of extreme confusion. Yes, there will be a MK, as Rev 20 plainly says, and Jesus WILL exercise "final judgment" at the GWT judgment in Rev 20:11-15, which is OBVIOUSLY after the MK. There Will Be No 1,000 Year Millennial Kingdom Upon This Earth, Jesus Christ Returns In Fire And Final Judgement, Dissolving This Existing Earth By Fire, Immediately After The Tribulation This Existing Heaven And Earth Will Be (Replaced) By The New Heaven, Earth, Jerusalem, A New Creation, At The Return Of Jesus Christ (Behold, I Make All Things New) 2 Peter 3:10-13KJV 10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. 11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness, 12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat? 13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness. Revelation 21:1-5KJV 1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. 2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. 3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God. 4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away. 5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful. Matthew 24:29-30KJV 29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: 30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 1 Corinthians 3:13KJV 13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is. Luke 17:29-30KJV 29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all. 30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed. 2 Thessalonians 1:7-9KJV 7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels, 8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ: 9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power; Malachi 3:2KJV 2 But who may abide the day of his coming? and who shall stand when he appeareth? for he is like a refiner's fire, and like fullers' soap: Psalm 46:6KJV 6 The heathen raged, the kingdoms were moved: he uttered his voice, the earth melted. Psalm 50:3KJV 3 Our God shall come, and shall not keep silence: a fire shall devour before him, and it shall be very tempestuous round about him. Psalm 97:5KJV 5 The hills melted like wax at the presence of the Lord, at the presence of the Lord of the whole earth. Isaiah 66:15KJV 15 For, behold, the Lord will come with fire, and with his chariots like a whirlwind, to render his anger with fury, and his rebuke with flames of fire. Zechariah 14:12KJV 12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the Lord will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth. Nahum 1:5-6KJV 5 The mountains quake at him, and the hills melt, and the earth is burned at his presence, yea, the world, and all that dwell therein. 6 Who can stand before his indignation? and who can abide in the fierceness of his anger? his fury is poured out like fire, and the rocks are thrown down by him. Revelation 20:9KJV 9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreeGrace Posted March 7, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 8 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,428 Content Per Day: 8.22 Reputation: 610 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/07/2022 Status: Offline Share Posted March 7, 2023 3 hours ago, truth7t7 said: There Will Be No 1,000 Year Millennial Kingdom Upon This Earth, You simply misunderstand a lot of Scripture. Rev 20 couldn't be any more clear and straightforward. But you've twisted it into meaning nothing by "spiritualizing" it, which lets you make any claim you want. Why anyone would PRESUME everything written in a verse means IMMEDIATELY occurring just shows bias. For example, 3 verses mention the resurrection of the saved and the lost together. So some presume they will occur at the same time. But none of the verses say they will occur together, and Rev 20 plainly shows believers are resurrected "when He comes" which is the Second Advent, and and there is no reason to presume Jesus will wait to reward all resurrected glorified believers until after the MK, at the GWT judgment. The resurrection of the saved will be 1,000 years BEFORE the resurrection of the unsaved, which is clearly communicated in Rev 20:5. You can reject the truth, but that doesn't change the truth. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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