Debp Posted March 30, 2023 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 52 Topic Count: 1,021 Topics Per Day: 0.15 Content Count: 12,335 Content Per Day: 1.80 Reputation: 16,380 Days Won: 92 Joined: 07/19/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted March 30, 2023 11 hours ago, Amyhoff said: I’ve praying around the clock for years. I’ve even had her sit with priests and nuns to help her change her ways. thank you for your prayers. Your daughter needs a "heart conversion" to Jesus Christ....that is when she will start to change or in some cases totally change. We usually call it being born again as Jesus called it in the Gospel of John chapter 3. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ani Tefillah Posted March 30, 2023 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 7 Topic Count: 340 Topics Per Day: 0.42 Content Count: 2,097 Content Per Day: 2.56 Reputation: 1,590 Days Won: 5 Joined: 02/06/2022 Status: Offline Share Posted March 30, 2023 15 hours ago, Amyhoff said: How can I get her to be a better person and dress appropriately? She has a terrible reputation in town. In addition to being intimate with certain types of people god would not condone. I'll pray that you both will wholeheartedly repent and get saved and born again. Please just leave your adult daughter alone, and try only to become a good example for her. ☺️ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amyhoff Posted March 30, 2023 Group: Members Followers: 3 Topic Count: 5 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 51 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 40 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/30/2019 Status: Offline Author Share Posted March 30, 2023 8 hours ago, HAZARD said: Personally I have nothing against Catholics. I was raised in a catholic house hold, was sent to catholic schools. Things that were said to me and what happened to me and many other in thes schools would make you sick if I told you. I couldn't wait to get out of and away from them. Its not God's church. Here's a ;list of Catholic heresies. OF ALL THE HUMAN TRADITIONS taught and practiced by the Roman Catholic Church, which are contrary to the Bible, the most ancient are the prayers for the dead and the sign of the Cross. Both began 300 years after Christ. Year, 310 Wax Candles introduced in church 320 Veneration of angels and dead saints 375 The Mass, as a daily celebration, adopted 394 The worship of Mary, the mother of Jesus, and the use of the term, "Mother of God", as applied to her, originated in the Council of Ephesus 431 Priests began to dress differently from the laity 500 Extreme Unction 526 The doctrine of Purgatory was first established by Gregory the Great 593 The Latin language, as the language of prayer and worship in churches, was also imposed by Pope Gregory I. 600 years after Christ The Word of God forbids praying and teaching in an unknown tongue. (1st Corinthians 14:9). 600 The Bible teaches that we pray to God alone. In the primitive church never were prayers directed to Mary, or to dead saints. This practice began in the Roman Church. (Matthew 11:28; Luke 1:46; Acts 10:25-26; 14:14-18) 600 The Papacy is of pagan origin. The title of pope or universal bishop, was first given to the bishop of Rome by the wicked emperor Phocas. This he did to spite Bishop Ciriacus of Constantinople, who had justly excommunicated him for his having caused the assassination of his predecessor emperor Mauritius. Gregory 1, then bishop of Rome, refused the title, but his successor, Boniface III, first assumed title "pope." Jesus did not appoint Peter to the headship of the apostles and forbade any such notion. (Luke 22:24-26; Ephesians 1:22-23; Colossians 1:18; 1st Corinthians 3:11). Note: Nor is there any mention in Scripture, nor in history, that Peter ever was in Rome, much less that he was pope there for 25 years; Clement, 3rd bishop of Rome, remarks that "there is no real 1st century evidence that Peter ever was in Rome." 610 The kissing of the Pope's feet It had been a pagan custom to kiss the feet of emperors. The Word of God forbids such practices. (Read Acts 10:25-26; Revelation 19:10; 22:9). 709 The Temporal power of the Popes When Pepin, the usurper of the throne of France, descended into Italy, called by Pope Stephen II, to war against the Italian Lombards, he defeated them and gave the city of Rome and surrounding territory to the pope. Jesus expressly forbade such a thing, and He himself refused worldly kingship. (Read Matthew 4:8-9; 20:25-26; John 18:38). 750 Worship of the cross, images and relics was authorized This was by order of Dowager Empress Irene of Constantinople, who first caused to pluck the eyes of her own son, Constantine VI, and then called a church council at the request of Hadrian I, pope of Rome at that time. Such practice is called simply IDOLATRY in the Bible, and is severely condemned. (Read Exodus 20:4; 3:17; Deuteronomy 27:15; Psalm 115). 788 Holy Water, mixed with a pinch of salt and blessed by the priest, was authorized 850 The veneration of St. Joseph began 890 The baptism of bells was instituted by Pope John XIV 965 Canonization of dead saints, first by Pope John XV Every believer and follower of Christ is called saint in the Bible. (Read Romans 1:7; 1st Colossians 1:2). 995 Fasting on Fridays and during Lent were imposed Imposed by popes said to be interested in the commerce of fish. (Bull, or permit to eat meat), some authorities say, began in the year 700. This is against the plain teaching of the Bible. (Read Matthew 15:10; 1st Corinthians 10:25; 1st Timothy 4:1-3). 998 The Mass was developed gradually as a sacrifice; attendance made obligatory in the 11th century. The Bible teaches that the sacrifice of Christ was offered once and for all, and is not to be repeated, but only commemorated in the Lord's Supper. (Read Hebrews 7:27; 9:26-28; 10:10-14). The celibacy of the priesthood was decreed by Pope Hildebrand, Boniface VII Jesus imposed no such rule, nor did any of the apostles. On the contrary, St. Peter was a married man, and St. Paul says that bishops were to have wife and children. (Read 1st Timothy 3:2,5, and 12; Matthew 8:14-15). 1079 The Rosary, or prayer beads was introduced by Peter the Hermit, in the year 1090. Copied from Hindus and Mohammedans The counting of prayers is a pagan practice and is expressly condemned by Christ. (Matthew 6:5-13). 1090 The Inquisition of heretics was instituted by the Council of Verona in the year 1184. Jesus never taught the use of force to spread His religion 1184 The sale of Indulgences, commonly regarded as a purchase of forgiveness and a permit to indulge in sin. Christianity, as taught in the Bible, condemns such a traffic and it was the protest against this traffic that brought on the Protestant Reformation in the 16th century. 1190 The dogma of Transubstantiation was decreed by Pope Innocent III, in the year By this doctrine the priest pretends to perform a daily miracle by changing a wafer into the body of Christ, and then he pretends to eat Him alive in the presence of his people during Mass. The Bible condemns such absurdities; for the Lord's Supper is simply a memorial of the sacrifice of Christ. The spiritual presence of Christ is implied in the Lord's Supper. (Read Luke 22:19-20; John 6:35; 1st Corinthians 11:26). 1215 Confession of sin to the priest at least once a year was instituted by Pope Innocent III., in the Lateran Council The Bible commands us to confess our sins direct to God. (Read Psalm 51:1-10; Luke 7:48; 15:21; 1st John 1:8-9). 1215 The adoration of the wafer (Host), was decreed by Pope Honorius So the Roman Church worships a God made by human hands. This is plain idolatry and absolutely contrary to the spirit of the Gospel. (Read John 4:24). 1220 The Bible forbidden to laymen and placed in the Index of forbidden books by the Council of Valencia Jesus commanded that the Scriptures should be read by all. (John 5:39; 1st Timothy 3:15-17). 1229 The Scapular was invented by Simon Stock, and English monk It is a piece of brown cloth, with the picture of the Virgin and supposed to contain supernatural virtue to protect from all dangers those who wear it on naked skin. This is fetishism. 1287 The Roman Church forbade the cup to the laity, by instituting the communion of one kind in the Council of Constance The Bible commands us to celebrate the Lord's Supper with unleavened bread and the fruit of the vine. (Read Matthew 26:27; 1st Corinthians 11:26-29). 1414 The doctrine of Purgatory was proclaimed as a dogma of faith by Council of Florence There is not one word in the Bible that would teach the purgatory of priests. The blood of Jesus Christ cleanseth us from all sins. (Read 1st John 1:7-9; 2:1-2; John 5:24; Romans 8:1). 1439 The doctrine of 7 Sacraments affirmed The Bible says that Christ instituted only two ordinances, Baptism and the Lord's Supper. (Read Matthew 28:19-20; 26:26-28). 1439 The Ave Maria, part of the last It was completed 50 years afterward and finally approved by Pope Sixtus V, at the end of the 16th century. 1508 The Council of Trent, held in the year 1545, declared that Tradition is of equal authority with the Bible By tradition is meant human teachings. The Pharisees believed the same way, and Jesus bitterly condemned them, for by teaching human tradition, they nullified the commandments of God. (Read Mark 7:7-13; Colossians 2:8; Revelation 22:18). 1545 The apocryphal books were added to the Bible also by the Council of Trent These books were not recognized as canonical by the Jewish Church. (See Revelation 22:8-9). 1546 The Creed of Pope Pius IV was imposed as the official creed 1560 years after Christ and the apostles True Christians retain the Holy Scriptures as their creed. Hence their creed is 1500 years older than the creed of Roman Catholics. (Read Galatians 1:8). 1560 The Immaculate Conception of the Virgin Mary was proclaimed by Pope Pius IX The Bible states that all men, with the sole exception of Christ, are sinners. Mary herself had need of a Savior. (Read Romans 3:23; 5:12; Psalm 51:5; Luke 1:30,46,47). 1834 In the year 1870 after Christ, Pope Pius IX proclaimed the dogma of Papal Infallibility This is a blasphemy and the sign of the apostasy and of the antichrist predicted by St. Paul. (Read 2nd Thessalonians 2:2-12; Revelation 17:1-9; 13:5-8,18). Many Bible students see the number of the beast (Rev. 13:18), 666 in the Roman letters of the Pope's title: "VICARIVS FILII DEI." -- V-5, I-1; C-100, I-1; V-S, I-1; L-50, I-1; I-1; D-500, I-l — Total, 666. 1870 Pope Plus X, in the year 1907, condemned together with "Modernism", all the discoveries of modern science which are not approved by the Church Pius IX had done the same thing in the Syllabus of 1864. 1907 In the year 1930 Pius XI, condemned the Public Schools 1930 In the year 1931 the same pope Pius XI, reaffirmed the doctrine that Mary is "the Mother of God" This doctrine was first invented by the Council of Ephesus in the year 431. This is a heresy contrary by Mary's own words. (Read Luke 1:46-49; John 2: l-5). 1931 In the year 1950 the last dogma was proclaimed by Pope Pius XII, the Assumption of the Virgin Mary 1950 Cardinal Newman, in his book, “The Development of the Christian Religion,” admits that ... “Temples, incense, oil lamps, votive offerings, holy water, holidays and season of devotions, processions, blessing of fields, sacerdotal vestments, the tonsure (of priests and monks and nuns), images ... are all of pagan origin...” (Page 359). Ty fir the timeline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ani Tefillah Posted March 30, 2023 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 7 Topic Count: 340 Topics Per Day: 0.42 Content Count: 2,097 Content Per Day: 2.56 Reputation: 1,590 Days Won: 5 Joined: 02/06/2022 Status: Offline Share Posted March 30, 2023 I was grown up with a mom who wanted to control me even after I was an adult, and also my marriage, and that's not good at all for anyone, believe me! It went so long that she ended up persecuting my husband and I, so I decided to cut off all contact with her, which was an huge relief. I'm 55 years now, don't have any children myself, but if I had, I know that it would have been good for both me and the child(ren), if i let them live their own lives when they grew up, and not try to stick my nose and try to control them, if you know what I mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amyhoff Posted March 30, 2023 Group: Members Followers: 3 Topic Count: 5 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 51 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 40 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/30/2019 Status: Offline Author Share Posted March 30, 2023 5 hours ago, HAZARD said: I am reaching out to her, in truth. Not much sense hiding facts. If we want God to intervene in our lives we need to come to Him in truth not in some man made false religion that worships idols, worships Mary, pray to the dead. Sorry if I have offended you, I will bow out now. I appreciate it. No need to bow out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amyhoff Posted March 30, 2023 Group: Members Followers: 3 Topic Count: 5 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 51 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 40 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/30/2019 Status: Offline Author Share Posted March 30, 2023 30 minutes ago, PrayerWife said: I agree with those two has pointed out that your daughter is actually a grown up woman, and as I know very well how it was to have a dominant mother who was trying to control my life, and also my marriage, until I decided to cut off all contact with her (which was an huge relief), I encourage you to let her go and let her be! My mom is not yet saved and born again, and she actually persecuted my husband and I, too. If she had been saved and born again, she had gladly accepted us in the Lord, and had been a Godly example for her daughter and other women, and she had understood that her daughter was an adult and she hadn't tried to control her or her husband, but she had blessed them and prayed for them. As I see it out of what you've told us, (and I don't beat around the bush, but I like to tell people the truth in the Love of the Lord, as I know that the truth can set people free), I believe that both you and your daughter are lost right now, but there's hope for you both to wholeheartedly repent and get saved and born again! 😊 I really hope and pray that you both will one glorious day consider to do it, and that it will bring you into the healthy relationship with each other, that only the Lord can do. Shalom. 🙏🏽 We go to church every Sunday. Confession on Saturday. There was a few times she has had issues with cleft members. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amyhoff Posted March 30, 2023 Group: Members Followers: 3 Topic Count: 5 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 51 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 40 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/30/2019 Status: Offline Author Share Posted March 30, 2023 7 minutes ago, PrayerWife said: I was grown up with a mom who wanted to control me even after I was an adult, and also my marriage, and that's not good at all for anyone, believe me! It went so long that she ended up persecuting my husband and I, so I decided to cut off all contact with her, which was an huge relief. I'm 55 years now, don't have any children myself, but if I had, I know that it would have been good for both me and the child(ren), if i let them live their own lives when they grew up, and not try to stick my nose and try to control them, if you know what I mean. I’m not trying to control her. Just trying to get her to not break commandments and other laws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ani Tefillah Posted March 30, 2023 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 7 Topic Count: 340 Topics Per Day: 0.42 Content Count: 2,097 Content Per Day: 2.56 Reputation: 1,590 Days Won: 5 Joined: 02/06/2022 Status: Offline Share Posted March 30, 2023 1 hour ago, Amyhoff said: I’m not trying to control her. Just trying to get her to not break commandments and other laws. I'm sure you have good intentions, as it seems that you genuinely love your daughter. ☺️ Nevertheless, first thing first, right? My concern for you both, is that you need to wholeheartedly repent and get saved and bornagain etc., as I assume you wanna go to Heaven some day? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amyhoff Posted March 30, 2023 Group: Members Followers: 3 Topic Count: 5 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 51 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 40 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/30/2019 Status: Offline Author Share Posted March 30, 2023 Doesn’t everyone want to go to heaven? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayne Posted March 30, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 16 Topic Count: 107 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 3,823 Content Per Day: 1.29 Reputation: 4,812 Days Won: 2 Joined: 03/31/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted March 30, 2023 16 minutes ago, Amyhoff said: Doesn’t everyone want to go to heaven? Some people don't even believe in it. Some hate God so much that the miss the forest for the trees and won't go. So, no, everyone does not want to go. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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